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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 10:11 AM
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Awesome thread. I'm new here, but will learn much from re-reading your build. Keep up the good work.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 11:00 AM
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Seriously an awesome build. Never even realized anyone bothered putting this much tune and work into bikes. Seems like they're so often bought, abused, and sold again lol.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2013 | 05:29 AM
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Sick bike...inspiring....did you drill the swingarm or it came like that?
 
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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 03:25 PM
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Its a vfr800 swingarm, you have to grind a bit of it off (a couple mm from each side) on the inside of it by the pivot bolt, but other than that, it's close to a quick/direct swap.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 04:44 AM
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Very nice
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 09:32 PM
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Lets finish both of our bikes up before April. We will do this together, although you have other bikes to ride.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 10:39 AM
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Some talk about the 08 1000RR which ecu your using:

Honda CBR1000 Forum : 1000RR.net - View Single Post - Found the problem for 081KRR low end speed being below average.

To reduce the width and weight of this engine, it features a new Hall Integrated Circuit, or IC cam position sensor. On the previous model, this sensor was an electromagnetic design, which meant the air gap of the sensor was critical. On the new model, the sensor is extremely accurate, and it can operate with a wider air gap, which allowed it to be moved to the cylinder head cover.
This engine has an Idle Air Control Valve, or IACV, similar to the CBR600RR. This system allows a measured amount of intake air to bypass the throttle bodies' closed butterfly valves. This IACV circuit gives a smoother transition of power as the throttle is opened at high rpm, such as when exiting a corner.
At the same time that the IACV is smoothing power delivery as the throttle is opened, the Ignition Interrupt Control is reducing the effects of gear backlash. This is the first Honda engine to incorporate an Ignition Interruption Control system.

The ECM uses input from the crankshaft position sensor and the vehicle speed sensor to check for gear backlash. Whenever the crank speed exceeds the rear wheel speed, the ignition is cut for a fraction of a second to allow the wheel to catch up to the engine. All this begins and ends within milliseconds, it simply feels as though throttle applications with the CBR1000RR occur with remarkable smoothness.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 04:05 PM
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Hmmm I was wondering why they went "Hall" with that bike. The air gap makes sense. Great find Mika.

I've got the Hall sensor figured out - as far as what I'm going to do. I found one from a Ducati that has a pretty long stem on it and mounts similar to the way the 954 cam sensor fits. I have to cut off 1/4 inch or so of the head where the sensor mounts. It shouldn't be too difficult.

What I'm still "sort of" unsure about is the knock sensor. It's a good feature, but as the 954 doesn't have one - I'm thinking of by-passing it. There isn't a good spot to mount one on my bike. If I put it on the head, it'll "sense" a knock and retard the ignition. I thought about mounting it to the front side of the case where one of the coolant reservoir brackets mounts - but it's not big enough

What do you guys think about bypassing it?
 
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by msebastianCBR
Lets finish both of our bikes up before April. We will do this together, although you have other bikes to ride.
It'll be nothing short of a miracle if I can get her built by April! But I can always dream... hahaha



I've been reading about the knock sensor. I may just desensitize it with some resistors and put it on the head...
 
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Conrice
Hmmm I was wondering why they went "Hall" with that bike. The air gap makes sense. Great find Mika.

I've got the Hall sensor figured out - as far as what I'm going to do. I found one from a Ducati that has a pretty long stem on it and mounts similar to the way the 954 cam sensor fits. I have to cut off 1/4 inch or so of the head where the sensor mounts. It shouldn't be too difficult.

What I'm still "sort of" unsure about is the knock sensor. It's a good feature, but as the 954 doesn't have one - I'm thinking of by-passing it. There isn't a good spot to mount one on my bike. If I put it on the head, it'll "sense" a knock and retard the ignition. I thought about mounting it to the front side of the case where one of the coolant reservoir brackets mounts - but it's not big enough

What do you guys think about bypassing it?
I would try to mount it somewhere. It could be usefull.

You should try to find out how big the air gap is in the 1000RR. It will probably read the cam rotor from the 954 oem mount whitout any grinding or changing to different sensor. I think it's pretty far from the rotor because it is in the valve cover and this is what the 08 1000RR cams looks.

 
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