CBR 1000F "Hurricane" 1987-1996 CBR 1000F

Stick coils for the CBR1000F?

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Old 07-27-2012, 11:09 AM
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I'd go with the stock plug and benefit from the hotter spark.

Keep in mind that hotter plugs put more heat into the head. I'd keep the cooler plugs in. There are reasons to run hotter plugs but I don't think they're need.
 
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:17 AM
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Found out that 87-99 plugs have a 12mm thread diameter.

Plugs for a 2007 have a 10mm thread diameter

So it's no go anyway.

My choice would be the NGK Iridium DPR9EIX.

Any thoughts?
 

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Old 07-27-2012, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TimBucTwo
The answer is no. The reason for the relay is to bypass the inadequate small coil power wires and use a larger coil power wire to carry more current to the coils. The small wires will cause a voltage drop where as the large one will not have such a voltage drop off. The relay is energized from the time the key is turned on, to the time it is turned off. There is no delay as it is on the entire time the bike is running. {snip}
How can what is bolded be possible? That would create a straight continuous circuit to the plugs and burn them out. The relay is actuated when the spark signal would ordinarily goto the coil for transformation.

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{snip}not really helping to answer your question tho am I
 
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Old 07-27-2012, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wooferdog
Found out that 87-99 plugs have a 12mm thread diameter.

Plugs for a 2007 have a 10mm thread diameter

So it's no go anyway.

My choice would be the NGK Iridium DPR9EIX.

Any thoughts?
Woof, I'm waiting on a set of these:

NGK IRIDIUM IX SPARK PLUG DPR9EIX-9

Cheers, SB
 
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:47 PM
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y'll not be disappointed with the IX's - and if you see the SF 416B's try 'em too
 
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Originally Posted by Hueristic
How can what is bolded be possible? That would create a straight continuous circuit to the plugs and burn them out. The relay is actuated when the spark signal would ordinarily goto the coil for transformation.


the circuit is there but voltage only appears when the coils fire. if the light switch is on but the power to the house is off would be the same thing.
if the relays are wired correctly they will be on all the time not just when the coils fire
 

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Old 07-28-2012, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tobiahr
the circuit is there but voltage only appears when the coils fire. if the light switch is on but the power to the house is off would be the same thing.
if the relays are wired correctly they will be on all the time not just when the coils fire
I don't think you guys understand my question. Look here is a spec sheet. the delay is 3ms. The more I think about it the less I think a 3ms retard in timing will effect the bike.

A relay is nothing more than a coil that when energizes closes a circuit, That circuit is what fires the spark plug in this instance but there is a delay between when the coil fires and the switch closes. This is what I am talking about.

http://www.te.com/commerce/DocumentD...%7F4-1393273-9
 
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:36 AM
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Hueristic: the relay does not switch like you're thinking. It turns on, and then stays energised for the whole time the ignition switch is on. It uses the normal supply to the coils to operate (energise) the relay coil.

On the contacts of the relay (normally open contacts - closed when the coil is energised), a very low resistance piece of wire comes directly from the battery (essentially) and then feeds the coils with a minimal voltage drop. The switching of current through the coils (to make the spark) is still done by the ignitors like it is at present.

Does that help? A picture would explain it immediately, words are a bit harder.

Regards
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Like this I think:

 
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Old 07-29-2012, 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bohdan
Hueristic: the relay does not switch like you're thinking. It turns on, and then stays energised for the whole time the ignition switch is on. It uses the normal supply to the coils to operate (energise) the relay coil.

On the contacts of the relay (normally open contacts - closed when the coil is energised), a very low resistance piece of wire comes directly from the battery (essentially) and then feeds the coils with a minimal voltage drop. The switching of current through the coils (to make the spark) is still done by the ignitors like it is at present.

Does that help? A picture would explain it immediately, words are a bit harder.

Regards
Kevin.

Dang! And I thought I had this all sorted in my head

Back to Ajax sniffin' for me - might clarify things a bit

Cheers, SB
 


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