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Old May 31, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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Friday can't get here fast enough.............. Road America here I come. Its gonna be a long ride but we'll get there in about a hour and 15 min. Sheesh Iron BUTT hey ??? LOL
 
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 01:31 PM
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simoncelli shouldn't have to talor his riding style at all to anybody if he's fast. look at his practice, qualifying laps, and other fast laps during the race.
I think the pass was horrible. I don't even like Pedrosa and I feel bad for him. Everyone has a faster qualifiying times and laps when they are by themselves than they do during the race, not just him. The difference is he has complete lack of regard towards anyone else no matter what happens. That is not a good combination to have. There is a huge difference between aggressive riding and all out reckless. Plus, he broke way way late and then cut into Pedrosa. I seriously doubt that was in line throughout the race. I think the fact that most crashes look pretty harmless can affect how people view it as well. But the fact is at any point in time that this happens you could be looking at a dead racer. Sure accidents happen, but there are those ones that can be, and should be avoided that get people upset. Also, most racers only have a short career and to have part of season and the championship ripped away by someone that is that reckless is not right.

Having said that. I don't think he intentionally recked Pedrosa. But he certainly didn't care if he did. I think his penalty should have been at least one race suspension.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 10:57 AM
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Can Stoner surpass Lorenzo? 7 points away now... Go Repsol!!! It was sad to see Edwards get banged up. Man... seems like broken colar bones is the injury this year...
 
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by justasquid
I think the pass was horrible. I don't even like Pedrosa and I feel bad for him. Everyone has a faster qualifiying times and laps when they are by themselves than they do during the race, not just him. The difference is he has complete lack of regard towards anyone else no matter what happens. That is not a good combination to have. There is a huge difference between aggressive riding and all out reckless. Plus, he broke way way late and then cut into Pedrosa. I seriously doubt that was in line throughout the race. I think the fact that most crashes look pretty harmless can affect how people view it as well. But the fact is at any point in time that this happens you could be looking at a dead racer. Sure accidents happen, but there are those ones that can be, and should be avoided that get people upset. Also, most racers only have a short career and to have part of season and the championship ripped away by someone that is that reckless is not right.

Having said that. I don't think he intentionally recked Pedrosa. But he certainly didn't care if he did. I think his penalty should have been at least one race suspension.
there is an etiquette to racing - i get that. all i'm saying is - if that's his line, then that is his line and he shouldn't have to change that, so look at his other laps to try and get an idea to get a better feel for what was happening. i think you may have taken what i said out of context a little bit.

racing is dangerous. these guys know that. you know i can't stand pedrosa either, but i felt bad that he got taken out. i feel bad when anyone gets taken out and i feel bad when anyone gets hurt. pedrosa got both.

having said that though, i still think simoncelli's penalty was just. he had a ride-through. i mean, look at all the other 'aggressive' moves that are made in any given race. as long as the guy doesn't go down, the passing racer doesn't get in trouble, no matter how aggressive they are.

as far as this last race, i was dissapointed in nicky. he should have been able to close up on rossi and dovi when they were fighting with eachother in the first few laps. instead, he dropped back... and he ended up in 8th which sucks for a factory bike in GP (but i'm still positive for the 1000's)

stoner - well...what can you say about him other than he is DOMINATING. that honda tranny the buisness, eh? and cyc'd - if rossi didn't crash him out at jerez - he'd probably already be ahead of lorenzo - i'm under the impression that it's just a matter of time.

simoncelli - maybe a little bit of race karma?

lorenzo - he's just being out ridden by the lil fella on the honda.

edwards - that sucks... he looked like he was feeling okay though when they showed him.

spies - good podium.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 12:38 AM
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there is an etiquette to racing - i get that. all i'm saying is - if that's his line, then that is his line and he shouldn't have to change that, so look at his other laps to try and get an idea to get a better feel for what was happening. i think you may have taken what i said out of context a little bit.
If I did, I apologize. I didn't really mean what I wrote to be a direct contradiction to what you were saying, even though now I re-read it and I can see how it reads that way. I was just giving my opinion on what happened since it was asked for thoughts on the incident. I know your one of the most level headed members here, so it wasn't anything against your thoughts, just my own take on it.

I agree on Nicky. I have high hopes everytime he races, even though I know he's going to get a decent start and just fade back after a few laps. I do think the 1000's will be a much better fit for him, but I think he will still have the issue of fading back for whatever reason.

Rossi is doing great considering he didn't have any winter practice and his first few races have been his first chance to really get to know the bike. I do think there will come a point where Rossi and Hayden are going to concentrate on the 2012 bikes development a little more and it will show on race day this year. I think the front runners are too consistant and fast to take the championship, so they may look to next year as the year of Ducati.

I am somewhat confused with Spies though. I truly thought he would be fighting for the championship by now. He did better on the satellite team that he is doing on the factory team. I haven't heard of any injuries or anything, so I don't know whats going on.

I think Stoner is going to walk away with it. He is extremely fast and is now on a bike that doesn't tuck the front end without warning. Honda is going to get a championship for sure this year. I don't think Lorenzo has an answer for Stoner.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 04:04 PM
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oh, its all good, no need for the apology. i'm not offended, i just wanted to make sure you didn't think i was saying that taking out other racers is okay.

i think nicky'll do a lot better on the 1000's because of the lack of rider aids (which is one of the reasons i think he does so well everytime it rains, or they race at a new track), and the bigger bikes will suit him well.... he did wrestle the RC51 for long enough right?

o... and another thing... he's on his 4th engine already (of at least thats what i think i heard the announcer say?) - bad news if thats true considering its only the 5th round

and rossi is doing well, i mean, he is the GOAT, you can't ever count him out. its weird though because he doesn't seem to qualify well (obviously neither does nicky), but he fights and finishes well - it just shows how (seemingly) low the potential of the duc is compared to the honda....

i'm sure next year with the 1000's it'll be a whole new ball game though, so i'm hopeful.

and i totally agree with you on spies - it must be a case of the sophomore woes... we'll see how it goes
 
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 08:30 AM
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I agree maybe Spies is having the Sophmore woes... I hope he starts putting together more top 5 rides. As long as Stoner doesn't crash out any more or less times than Lorenzo, I see him taking the crown. Pedrosa also I think if he comes back can possibly pass Lorenzo by the end of the season.

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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 05:45 AM
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Wow!!! Must say it was nice to have 4 hours of racing this Sunday. Hats off to Colin Edwards!!! A great finish for someone with a broken collar bone.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 05:45 AM
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Wow!!! Must say it was nice to have 4 hours of racing this Sunday. Hats off to Colin Edwards!!! A great finish for someone with a broken collar bone. What hapen to Johnny Rae?
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 01:49 PM
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Hats off to Colin Edwards!!! A great finish for someone with a broken collar bone.
yeah no joke! that was incredible. He could have chosen to sit it out, "like another collar bone injured rider", but decided to go for it and gets a podium. For some reason, I've never really cared for him, but he went up a few notches in my opinion. I could only imagine the celebration after the race. Heck, Hayden is one of my all time favorite riders and I was hoping he didn't catch Edwards as he started to close in on him later in the race. I really wanted him to podium for such a great effort.

I couldn't believe how many people were crashing though.

Did you catch Haydens near off? It was just barely visible in the background, but I thought for sure he was done for. Both feet in the air above the bike. That was a great save. Pretty sure thats why he played it a bit safer through the race, not to mention he probably injured himself a bit and took awhile to get back into the groove. He did do some really fast laps trying to catch Edwards towards the end of the race, but Edwards answered with his own fast laps and it was just too late.

Overall, one of the more enjoyable races in MotoGP this year.

Anyone hear about Spies? Last I heard he was complaining about his back.

Oh yeah, can't leave without the congrats to Stoner. He looks unstoppable this year.
 

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