I guess the new CBR 1000RR will be another big secret like how this one was. It ranks high on the Liter Bike Shootout, but it hasn't shown much on the track. Not sure if it's all the bike or combo of riders & bike?

 

i bet its got a lot to do with HRC. i mean, racing is totally different from the production bikes. in almost every shootout - the R1 runs out of steam and is lagging in top end - but it has awesome mid range power - that seems to be what every moto mag says - but it outran everyone except biaggi's aprillia at monza which is a topspeed circuit. the r1 had more topend speed then the BMW - we know thats not true with the production models we can buy.

i think it's just... old... i mean, it doesn't really seem to have any strengths you know? it doesn't corner the best, its sure as sh*t not the fastest, it doesn't stop that well, it doesn't manage tires that well, midrange is low, ect.

the r1 gets on the gas early and good top end. the aprillia dominates the straights and stops real well. the ducati corners amazingly and it puts almost no wear on the tires compared to the others. the suzi has all the power in the world.

but where is honda? where is kawi? one is an old model that needs an update, and the other is a new model that has almost no info yet.

so we'll see... i hope HONDA does bring out a new model though... for racing's sake. but they are kind of commited to GP this year you know

 

Not sure if this was posted. There is a 2gb file of the last race.

Google "MotoGP.2011.Portugal.720p.HDTV.x264-WHEELS.mkv." I can send you a link if you want to message me.

 

good motogp race today!!! Stoner dominated the whole race.

Sucks Pedrosa broke the other side of his collarbone this time after being cut off way too late by simoncelli

 

Yeah, He was already warned about his cut-off style of racing, now that he took out one the possible championship contenders, Im sure he will have some serious penalties. At least one race suspension I would imagine. I like him as a rider because he is really fast. But he has to know what he is doing wrong. He states he has no idea why people are singling him out as a bad rider. If he truly doesn't know why people are upset... then he shouldn't be racing.


I think Conrice pretty much summed it. HRC is not investing money to other programs, so riders are not riding them. If Honda decided to back riders again, they would be winning races in other competitions. It all comes down to riders who have relatively short careers not going to ride a bike they don't get support on. I love Honda motorcycles, I dislike Buells. But, if I was a racer and Buell came and said we will support you to race and Honda wouldn't... its not a hard decission to make. I'd have Buell tattoo'd on my butt.

Bottom line is. Racing results rarely translate to what the actual bikes we drive and how they compare to each other. more times that not, who ever puts down more money will be winning the races. If you pay your rider more, have him pampered a bit, have the best trainers, test riders...ect. versus having to drive yourself to the race towing your rig and bike, wrench on your bike, test your own bike with the lack of sleep and financial stress behind it, its not too difficult to see why factory riders usually win. And if Honda and Kawaski don't have factory riders, their aren't going to be winning any races. Plus, non-factory riders will not want to use them either. Its a lot easier to beg borrow and steal parts from other riders if they are on the same bike. There are time when a factory team will help out a privateer rider who just needs one part. If your on a different model bike, your sol. And when your constantly one race away from not being able to race the next, it truly matters.

 

Yeah, I know the riders are going to go where the $$$ is... I guess HRC feels its more profitable to be on the MotoGP stage & their participation is less in WSBK & not at all in AMA. This past weekend Speed announcers were talking about Jake Holden's team is operating on scraps. They said it costs about $25,000 a race weekend in AMA.

 

which is one of the main reasons I think the new ownership of the AMA really missed the boat by getting rid of factory teams. There aren't any true factory teams anymore in AMA in an effort to make it easier for privateer riders to compete. But in doing so, they took away a lot of support to all teams and made nearly impossible to race at all. They really need to allow manufacturers to fully support teams and give the privateers something to strive for, and allow the manufacturers to provide support to everyone.

it is too bad too. Jake is a good rider. There are a quite a few riders in the same boat. Before long, the field is going to be down to 10 riders. Maybe then, the AMA will realize what they need to do. I would love to see factory support back the way was before.

Also, I think Honda is focused on MotoGP mainly because they get something from it. The amount of R&D they get from MotoGP is priceless. Racing in AMA or WSBK really doesn't allow them to experiment the way they can in MotoGP. So while they may get some exposure and advertising from those series, the actual payoff is no where near as great as it is with MotoGP.

 

man, i cringed when he threw it away in race 2 (because of the fact that they're so broke). look, factories aren't going to give full support in a class like supersport or daytona sportbike. superbike is where its at. i mean, look at world supersport, they're not recieving all that much support from honda.

i like how close the racing in those smaller classes, but 25k is rediculuous for a weekend. i mean, how are bike shops (the heart of privateer racers) supposed to pony up that kind of dough for it.


and i'm with ya on motogp. they get tons of info back for future bikes (r&d), its the biggest motorcycle racing event (advertising), more venues, bigger names, etc.

 

What's your take on Simoncelli's pass on Pedrosa?

Speed had this article with video. MOTO RACING - MOTOGP: Noyes' Notebook: Anatomy Of An Overtaking, Pt. I

 

as far as the pass, i dont know. i mean, simoncelli came into dani, dani wrecked, and he got really hurt.


but just about 10 years ago and going further back, in the old 500 days, everyone's riding style was so different that you had to take that into account. i mean, this kind of thing happened all the time because of different entry lines and riders trying to hit a different apex.


if simoncelli was honestly just trying to ride as hard as he can, waiting til he saw GOD to brake, and turn in at the latest point- then i dont fault him.

if he was trying to slam the door shut on dani in order to make that pass stick - then i'm with everyone else, it was in poor taste.

i'm kind of laissez faire when it comes to motogp. i believe in almost no rules (minus capacity, and deliberately taking other riders out). everything else is cool with me. and where i'm going with that is - simoncelli shouldn't have to talor his riding style at all to anybody if he's fast. look at his practice, qualifying laps, and other fast laps during the race. if he had a similiar entry point like he did on that move, then i think he shouldn't have been penalized. if that was one of the only laps that he did that move on, then he should have been penalized, and i'm in agreement with everyone else.

and in his words, thats how he rides, and when he got chastized by lorenzo, he stated that that is his line and his style.

whats your take?