what is the best chain lube to buy???
#41
04-30-2009, 03:06 AM
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White lithium works ok, only thing with it is it tends to turn whitish leaves a haze. And wow this thread has been informative. Gotta love how one persons qouted experience, with one chain, witnessed by one unqualified source completely disproves all accumulated knowledge not just from this forums riders, but from the internets as well. Well that settles it buds, we were all wrong, the entire internet is wrong, wd-40 itself as a company is mistaken for not stating their product is 0-ring safe and we should all now quietly apologize to sd7001 and not mention it again. I for one am terribly sorry for doubting the wisdom accumulated through your many many years of experience and mechanical expertise. I humbly beg forgiveness and bow out of the debate.
My apologies, Hang.
My apologies, Hang.
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04-30-2009, 04:02 AM
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04-30-2009, 07:14 AM
I went to the section called "Drive Chain Wear Inspection" found on page 10-5 of my '98 Kawasaki ZX-9R service manual. I didn't measure the chain when it was new, I just know the measurement at 20,000 was within the "standard" range and was well short of the service limit. That's what I'm talking about when I say no measurable wear. Maybe I should have said "minimal wear", whatever...
Until I see some intelligent, results-based discussion in this thread, I'm going to be spending my time elsewhere.
Until I see some intelligent, results-based discussion in this thread, I'm going to be spending my time elsewhere.
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04-30-2009, 07:38 AM
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Until I see some intelligent, results-based discussion in this thread, I'm going to be spending my time elsewhere.
Our argument does not need written calculated facts ..
It is what is called common knowledge , gathered over years and years by ourselves and talked to death by riders from all walks of life for as long as I can remember ..
Like most of the older riders here , I would have bought and used more cans of WD40 and tried them on every conceivable application possible for one reason or another, than you have had hot dinners...
If you think your one of a kind argument will make any of us repeat our life's experiences one by one to you, or research for so called measured facts? ...you are wrong..
I have to ask mate...what bloody planet do you live on... ??
"( I'm going to be spending my time elsewhere.) "
Well I know om shattered by that
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#46
04-30-2009, 08:23 AM
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I was going to stay out of this until I read CBRriderNevada's comments. I respect Classic as much as anyone, however your lame attempt at coming to his aide and circling the wagons was just that, lame. Booger eater? Snot? Wow, really? Perhaps you should stop watching Spongebob and Cartoon Network and start thinking about your post prior to making them public. The debate between Classic and SD is a good one. I never thought to use WD-40, and now because of their lively conversation/debate I have more insight into it. Will I start using it? Nope, I love the Castrol Chain Wax and will stick to it. You CBRriderNevada, however, should cease the overuse of your meds, not mix them with the ol' fire water, and keep this thread open to informative yet entertaining debate, not a poor, zero witted attempt at aiding Classic. If you really wanted to help Classic, you would first have realized that SD's attacks on him and vice versa are all in good spirit and part of the need to prove ones point. The zingers are all associated with spirited argument. So my advice to you is to slowly make your way back to your room and away from the computer (the retirement home orderly can help you if necessary), lay down, and rest. When you rise from your slumber, it is my hope that you can contribute something meaningful to this debate, not your snot or childish name calling.
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04-30-2009, 08:41 AM
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Now everyone stay calm 
but....
Do not use WD40 AS A CHAIN LUBE !!!!!
It will dry your chain out ... remove all internal lubricants and loosens every bit of chit, to the extent where it fly's ALL over you and your bike!!
sure it is a great chain cleaner and I also use it for that purpose...
Use any good brand "non fling off type" spray motorcycle chain lube or Chain Wax...
NEVER JUST WD40 a chain and then ride it..
The WD40 cleans and washes great... including ALL THE INNER ROLLER LUBE OUT!!!
You want to kill your chain off ...then ok use it by its self..
but....
Do not use WD40 AS A CHAIN LUBE !!!!!
It will dry your chain out ... remove all internal lubricants and loosens every bit of chit, to the extent where it fly's ALL over you and your bike!!
sure it is a great chain cleaner and I also use it for that purpose...
Use any good brand "non fling off type" spray motorcycle chain lube or Chain Wax...
NEVER JUST WD40 a chain and then ride it..
The WD40 cleans and washes great... including ALL THE INNER ROLLER LUBE OUT!!!
You want to kill your chain off ...then ok use it by its self..
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04-30-2009, 09:05 AM
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Just so I don't get flamed for jumping on the bandwagon. Facts:
WD-40 = Water Displacement 40. Bad for metal chain links? No. Bad for embedded H20 in nitrile O-rings? Yes.
If RK, maker o chain for many o years, suggests not using WD-40 on your chain, should you listen to them? Screw it, everyone knows better anyway!! I'm out!
WD-40 = Water Displacement 40. Bad for metal chain links? No. Bad for embedded H20 in nitrile O-rings? Yes.
If RK, maker o chain for many o years, suggests not using WD-40 on your chain, should you listen to them? Screw it, everyone knows better anyway!! I'm out!
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04-30-2009, 09:09 AM
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I am sure Joe means well nafstap he just got a bit colorful perhaps...
and yer he is a mate and he is very clever with allot of stuff , so I do thank him for his back up all be it a bit enthusiastic...
Joe/Nevada also has a great sense of humor that does come out in his posts, which is something I am guilty of as well allot of the time myself...
I think the main point that has gotten lost in the last 5 pages is within the title of the thread originally...
"( what is the best chain lube to buy??? ) " the key word I feel is " BEST "
The WD40 argument is akin to the best tire and best oil great debates...
They have been around for ever and will go on for ever
he just got a bit colorful perhaps...and yer he is a mate and he is very clever with allot of stuff , so I do thank him for his back up all be it a bit enthusiastic...
Joe/Nevada also has a great sense of humor that does come out in his posts, which is something I am guilty of as well allot of the time myself...
I think the main point that has gotten lost in the last 5 pages
is within the title of the thread originally..."( what is the best chain lube to buy??? ) " the key word I feel is " BEST "
The WD40 argument is akin to the best tire and best oil great debates...
They have been around for ever and will go on for ever
#50
04-30-2009, 09:13 AM
Gosh, I am amazed at the arguements here about simple chain maintenance ... I haven't read the whole thread so sorry if I am repeating anything but here goes ...
Our Honda manuals recommend gear oil 80 or 90 as a lubricant for our chains ... gears and chains need quite a thick lubricant, thin stuff just doesn't cut it and is lost and evaporated too readily ... to those that say wd40 for cleaning I would say not, firstly why, it's pretty expensive (over here it is) and a possibility the solvents in it will react with the o rings of your chain ...
The good old time honoured and proven way is to use paraffin (you guys say kerosene) I always put my bikes on their main stand (or a paddock if you don't have a mainstand) and have a bowl of paraffin below the bottom run of the chain ..I use plenty and a soft two inch paintbrush which I dip in the bowl and bring up to the chain and brush it on, the paraffin just drops through the chain and back into the bowl taking all the dirt and grit with it ... once you have done the length by turning the wheel to clean the rest you then let it air dry off, it evaporates and dries quite quickly ...then I use gear oil to relube, obvioulsy you may use your favourite chain lube be it wax or whatever but I use gear oil as my dad used it on his bikes and the manual recommends it too, it's cheap and the best results are obtained by using it little but often :-)
The paraffin is simply wonderful and easy for cleaning chains up as good as new and it's amazing the dirt and grit that ends up in the bowl ...
WD40 is more of a mositure displacer and metal surface protector, sure it has lubrication properties as does any oily substance, but it's not meant for the heavy wear and tear of chains and sprockets, that is why we use gear oil or some chain lubricant especially designed for the job ..
hope this helps :-)
Jules
Our Honda manuals recommend gear oil 80 or 90 as a lubricant for our chains ... gears and chains need quite a thick lubricant, thin stuff just doesn't cut it and is lost and evaporated too readily ... to those that say wd40 for cleaning I would say not, firstly why, it's pretty expensive (over here it is) and a possibility the solvents in it will react with the o rings of your chain ...
The good old time honoured and proven way is to use paraffin (you guys say kerosene) I always put my bikes on their main stand (or a paddock if you don't have a mainstand) and have a bowl of paraffin below the bottom run of the chain ..I use plenty and a soft two inch paintbrush which I dip in the bowl and bring up to the chain and brush it on, the paraffin just drops through the chain and back into the bowl taking all the dirt and grit with it ... once you have done the length by turning the wheel to clean the rest you then let it air dry off, it evaporates and dries quite quickly ...then I use gear oil to relube, obvioulsy you may use your favourite chain lube be it wax or whatever but I use gear oil as my dad used it on his bikes and the manual recommends it too, it's cheap and the best results are obtained by using it little but often :-)
The paraffin is simply wonderful and easy for cleaning chains up as good as new and it's amazing the dirt and grit that ends up in the bowl ...
WD40 is more of a mositure displacer and metal surface protector, sure it has lubrication properties as does any oily substance, but it's not meant for the heavy wear and tear of chains and sprockets, that is why we use gear oil or some chain lubricant especially designed for the job ..
hope this helps :-)
Jules