Did the cop that pushed over the motorcycle get suspended? Like I've said I have not seen the video so I cannot comment to it directly. That is why I've asked questions and just given a few examples of things that may have been the reasons why the motorcycle was pushed over.
As far as taking your eyes off of the suspect your partenrs are struggling with to push over the motorcycle while your equipted with guns, clubs, tasers, pepper spray, do you know these cops had tasers? this may have required the drawing of a firearm, and what if one of the cops did draw a firearm on the suspect then what would people be saying? What if one of the cops used his "club" on the suspect instead of pushing the motorcycle over? People would be saying that "clubbing" the biker was uncalled for. the same goes for pepper spray.
Like I stated before I am not trying to defend these actions but being in similiar situations you will react differently to each. If the cop pushed it over just to do then he deserved to be suspended.
fishfryer your rape comment really makes no sense. What I was trying to expalin is an example like this. One night my partnet was almost run over by a drunk driver. Once getting the driver stopped I removed him from the vehicle and a physical altercation ensued. the suspected tryed to get to his truck and I yelled for my partner to get the keys out of the truck while I restrained the suspect. Makes sense to me the suspect wanted to escape so we prevented his means of escape. I know he still could have escaped but like I said before its easier to chase a suspect on foot then in a vehicle.
I don't know who in this forum has had any law enforcement experience but it makes you look at every thing in a different light. You also look at some of these videos in a different light also I guess because you understand what may be going through the cops minds. Again I am not saying the actions in this video in question were right I still have not seen it and if and when I do I'll post my honest oponion. If anyone find this please post the link. thanks for your time.


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still waiting for news response, i think they dont care.

 

i dont see ****... all i see is some guy watering his grass from inside his house lol

 

Alright, just got an email from the news station, they added the video back to the section below the garden hoser.

 

Well I finally saw the video. After watching do I feel that the motorcycle was in the way YES. Do I think that it needed to be pushed over NO. It easily could have been pushed forward and out of the way almost as easily as pushed over. But being in similar situations before you generally go with the simple quick move.
I guess bikers 1 cops 0, for now lol.
And no I'm not trying to defend the cop and no i've never pushed someones motorcycle over before.


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Ok i reserved judgement till i could actually see the video and after watching it I DO feel that that cop was in the wrong to push the bike over, NO it wasnt in the way, suspect was already down, not resisting, i can understand still running code-3 till back up arrived, but as soon as the first cruiser showed up everyone else should of backed off and ran code-2 if they must till they got there, the guy was already cuffed, not fighting, no problem, the problem was the officers were trying to fight each other to get to him, dont say bs in my 2 1/2 years as a Jailer ive seen us wind up fighting each other more than we are fighting the inmate b/c you get to many guys in the cell trying to take the guy down, same thing here too many cops trying to arrest the same guy, am i saying he was right for running? no, im not he ran and he got what he deserved but on the same level the cop was in the wrong for pushing the bike over. The pursuit was over, he was in custody, everything was fine, no officer was hurt so there was no reason to push the bike over, had he been resisting arrest i would say yes i can see pushing it over, but he wasnt he was already in custody, if it was in the county i worked at if the sheriff saw it i can gurantee the cop that pushed the bike over would of been put on leave or written up. am i taking up for the biker and cop bashing?? NO so before anyone says i am read what i wrote and get your ducks in a row. I am very pro-cop, hell im in the hiring process at Travis Co. S.O. right now, but still we are just like everyone else, we mess up. I know what its like to have your adrenaline running 100 miles an hour after some guy takes a swing at your or you have to do a cell extract and ive seen jailers do stupid stuff that cost them there jobs, hell ive done stupid stuff myself, but the point is i can understand both sides but the point is the cop was wrong to push the bike over.

 

I have said the cop was in the wrong since the beginning of the thread. I said the rider was also in the wrong and in my book, more so. Running is far worse than pushing a bike over.

Both are still wrong however.

 

I have a few things to say. I completely miss this fricken thread.

A. There ae some ignorant and incompetent people on this forum that have NO sense of respect.
B. There are some many of you little whiny s***'s that want to bash the police but then when something goes wrong, you cry because they dont get there fast enough. Honestly, I think people like you should be left to fend for yourself if you are some confident and independent.
C. Yes, BOTH parties were in the wrong, but looking at it from a law enforcing point of view, there could have been several reasons to do that. 1 being because there would have been no way he could have broken free and took off again. 2. because if you look were the crap was when he was struggling his back was up against it and his feet almost hitting the tire. 3 out of pure aggression.

No one knows the entire story ( atleast myself) behind why he ran. HOWEVER, there would have been some reason for it, and in some states, if he was clocked doing over 30+ ( which is reckless driving and unlawful sppeding and unlawful use of a motor vehicle) there would have been grounds to pursue. Whether he was doing it or 3 people where doing it, danger was involved, yes people could have been put at risk, but there was no heavy traffic an no dangerous action were taken during the pursuit (from the cars point of view anyway). And in response to the "the cop was retarded because he took the shoulder comment" that is what you are trained to do, why, BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRAFFIC!!! Cars are supposed to get out of the was to the RIGHT, and he was on the left shoulder, makes sense right!!!! Wow, see how this all plays out. Also, Another reason they could have persued, is because they would have been the leed unit, since the only other unit involved was a motorcycle. Motorcycles have no back up or no room for anything. Also, because if the car would have caught up, the bike could have backed off, endangering one less person. Yes, there was some redneck yelling but apparently itwas done for some sort of reason, because if it wasnt, a commander (whether it be Corp, Sgt, or LT) someone would have called them off. And the fact that the dumb f***er is in the force makes this even worse. He know whats right and wrong and is supposed to represent and follow. He got what he deserved imo. Was it totally right what happedn ..... no. Where there grounds Yes!!!! So all you anti-cop police bashing whiners out there need to rethink and re-assess the situation and think it through without a FTP point of view, because its those people (like the suspect) the cops have a F*** YOU attitude right back, so quit the bi***in!

 

i dont know how i feel about the coppushing the bike over. i feel yes they were both in the wrong but i do feel he believe the bike was in the way but at the same time the bike could have just as easly been rolled foward like rtb said. but one thing keeps coming to my mind after watching this thing on 20/20 like 2 years ago about police chases and police rage. and that after a high speed chase police officers build up a lot of adrenilan and often suffer a lot of stress making them do things that seem very irrational.