attempted murder!
#81
you are right... the rider was in the wrong, he will get ticketed for it. but he can not be punished for anything more than crossing the double line.
truck driver was trying to run him off the road, therefore hurt him or kill him, how can you justify that?? if you try to ticket the rider for recless driving based on the driving of the speeding truck, it will not hold, the rider was trying to get away from the truck driver because he was trying to kill him. he was sitting on his @$$ trying to make contact with his rear tire to make him flip the bike and crash. therefore he was running for his life once he passed the truck. and if you will argue that in court you are not smart because you can see the truck doing high speeds and wreckless driving trying to catch up to the bike and at the end a tire iron in his hand to hurt the rider.
i guess im from different part of the world, where driving is safer and where people do let you pass them without trying to run you off the road.
i cant say that for all of the people driving but for most part roads are more reasonable over seas.
truck driver was trying to run him off the road, therefore hurt him or kill him, how can you justify that?? if you try to ticket the rider for recless driving based on the driving of the speeding truck, it will not hold, the rider was trying to get away from the truck driver because he was trying to kill him. he was sitting on his @$$ trying to make contact with his rear tire to make him flip the bike and crash. therefore he was running for his life once he passed the truck. and if you will argue that in court you are not smart because you can see the truck doing high speeds and wreckless driving trying to catch up to the bike and at the end a tire iron in his hand to hurt the rider.
i guess im from different part of the world, where driving is safer and where people do let you pass them without trying to run you off the road.
i cant say that for all of the people driving but for most part roads are more reasonable over seas.
Last edited by scorpionvmu; 05-29-2011 at 08:42 PM.
#82
LOL
EDIT: Just saw you edited your post...but now I'm more confused. No one is saying the rider was in the wrong AFTER he made the pass and got his *** out of there (no one sane of course). Where are you getting that from? I'm talking about his riding leading up to and during the illegal pass he made.
Last edited by DrAwkwArD; 05-29-2011 at 08:47 PM.
#83
Doc doesn't like the imaginary woman analogy. Cool. What if I walked up down the block to Lancaster Ave (dohcdelsol should know about The Bottom) and shot one of the several guys dealing drugs on the corner in the face? They're breaking the law. It's definitely offends sensibilities. It's even endangering the lives of others. Should I get charged with 1st Degree Murder? Or should my lawyer be able to argue it down because it was a scumbag drug dealer breaking the law (trust me, if i were to do something that insane I'd find a lawyer able to play that card well)
Again, sorry. Not answering your question. I've stated MULTIPLE times that I think the driver of the truck should be in jail or a mental ward for as long as it's allowed. You're refusing to either read it or you gloss over it cause you don't want to accept that we're agreeing on that fact.
Where we disagree is in the thought the rider share some blame for creating the situation. It's what I first stated way back: it's extremely dangerous to assign any blame on the rider for the truck driver's action. Because that is the seed an attorney will use to grow a case for a lesser penalty for the defendant. If I were a lawyer, I'd make damn sure to find potential jurors that think just like you. How could you hold my client to the maximum penalty if he wasn't fully to blame for the situation?
It's a defense that's used successfully and constantly, assigning blame to a victim for the defendant's actions. It's repulsive, it cheats the victim of the justice they deserve and it's a reality. If you want to discuss what should happen to the rider, it's a completely different ballgame. But that is my entire point:
The rider's actions are completely separate from the driver's actions. No cause / effect. No blame sharing. Mutually exclusive
Damn, I prolly missed a promising career in law
#84
Why not? If the imaginary drug dealer wasn't out selling drugs on the corner, he wouldn't have been there to get shot in the face. So doesn't the imaginary drug dealer have some blame to carry for creating the situation where his illegal actions offended me enough to try to kill him?
Where we disagree is in the thought the rider share some blame for creating the situation. It's what I first stated way back: it's extremely dangerous to assign any blame on the rider for the truck driver's action. Because that is the seed an attorney will use to grow a case for a lesser penalty for the defendant. If I were a lawyer, I'd make damn sure to find potential jurors that think just like you. How could you hold my client to the maximum penalty if he wasn't fully to blame for the situation?
That's physically and factually impossible. The motorcyclists actions led to the driver of the truck's actions. They are NOT exclusive in any sense of the word. They are intertwined as much as anything in this world. If the truck drivers lawyer wants to use the fact that the motorcyclist started the event then he's entitled to do it...he'd be 100% correct. And for you to deny that is mindblowing. The truck driver didn't independently terrorize the motorcyclist under no prior pretense. Causality is blindingly present in this case.
Last edited by DrAwkwArD; 05-29-2011 at 09:36 PM.
#85
#87
Bracken video the rage of YouTube
this is a good article ,sheriff is really on motorcyclist side i believe,
LEX18.com | Lexington, KentuckyView Videos Page
here is a news story from a few days ago. fast forward to 6 min in.
the latest news is the truck driver has turned himself in and has already bonded out. he was hiding in north carolina. the motorcyclist will not face any charges and if he had it would have been a 160.00 ticket for crossing the double yellow.the story was on my local 12 news but the story has yet to be put on there website. ill have more info as it rolls in. im still waiting to here what his charges are so on. ill keep everyone up to date and lets please stop arguing about whos wrong here . i think we all know you shouldn't pass on a double yellow and you more importantly you shouldn't try and kill someone with your vehicle.
this is a good article ,sheriff is really on motorcyclist side i believe,
LEX18.com | Lexington, KentuckyView Videos Page
here is a news story from a few days ago. fast forward to 6 min in.
the latest news is the truck driver has turned himself in and has already bonded out. he was hiding in north carolina. the motorcyclist will not face any charges and if he had it would have been a 160.00 ticket for crossing the double yellow.the story was on my local 12 news but the story has yet to be put on there website. ill have more info as it rolls in. im still waiting to here what his charges are so on. ill keep everyone up to date and lets please stop arguing about whos wrong here . i think we all know you shouldn't pass on a double yellow and you more importantly you shouldn't try and kill someone with your vehicle.