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#81
03-22-2010, 12:00 PM
bluedevil, if a traffic camera (or a cruiser's dashboard cam) captures your plate, they've got all the evidence they need to make it stick. Then its up to you to prove that it wasn't you.
And I'm not a lawyer but have seen several cases where a vehicle's owner has been held liable in civil and criminal courts for things done while someone else was driving it. I'd really hate to have to test the character of a 'friend' over some dumb chit. Or test the limits of my self control to keep from murdering them
And I'm not a lawyer but have seen several cases where a vehicle's owner has been held liable in civil and criminal courts for things done while someone else was driving it. I'd really hate to have to test the character of a 'friend' over some dumb chit. Or test the limits of my self control to keep from murdering them
#82
03-22-2010, 01:37 PM
in your particular situation i would have to decline his request.
my friend and i both ride and we frequently switch up whose machine we ride. however we are both comfortable with eachothers riding style/ability and have agreed that in the event of something happening it would be repaired or replaced in a timely manner. but thats something between us. he is the only other person who has even placed cheeks on my seat muchless ride it.
my friend and i both ride and we frequently switch up whose machine we ride. however we are both comfortable with eachothers riding style/ability and have agreed that in the event of something happening it would be repaired or replaced in a timely manner. but thats something between us. he is the only other person who has even placed cheeks on my seat muchless ride it.
There's only about 3 people I trust enough to swap bikes with. We've been riding together for years and don't do squidy stuff on the street so I know they wouldn't do anything stupid enough to crash it. We've got a lot of respect for each other.
But... if I don't know you, there's ABSOLUTELY NO WAY you'll be touching my bike.
#83
03-23-2010, 07:13 AM
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maineiack, there isn't a chancer of me delivering the proverbial snowball to Hell so we could measure its miniscule chance that I'd let someone take my bike for a whole weekend. I don't want people posing on it when its stationary and on its stands. No way, no how my bike would be out of my sights for a whole weekend!
And while you're a nice guy and all I highly suggest you consider your liability were something to happen. Since its your bike, in the end you could be assuming some financial liability beyond insurance. Or especially if something were to happen due to a malfunction (you being responsible for maintaining the bike's condition). Won't even go into them getting a ticket and you having to pay it (traffic light / toll cams) or being held as an accessory should they commit a crime using your bike...
And while you're a nice guy and all I highly suggest you consider your liability were something to happen. Since its your bike, in the end you could be assuming some financial liability beyond insurance. Or especially if something were to happen due to a malfunction (you being responsible for maintaining the bike's condition). Won't even go into them getting a ticket and you having to pay it (traffic light / toll cams) or being held as an accessory should they commit a crime using your bike...
guess ive been lucky ha ha. ill keep that in mind. ha ha.
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03-23-2010, 09:49 AM
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bluedevil, if a traffic camera (or a cruiser's dashboard cam) captures your plate, they've got all the evidence they need to make it stick. Then its up to you to prove that it wasn't you.
And I'm not a lawyer but have seen several cases where a vehicle's owner has been held liable in civil and criminal courts for things done while someone else was driving it. I'd really hate to have to test the character of a 'friend' over some dumb chit. Or test the limits of my self control to keep from murdering them
And I'm not a lawyer but have seen several cases where a vehicle's owner has been held liable in civil and criminal courts for things done while someone else was driving it. I'd really hate to have to test the character of a 'friend' over some dumb chit. Or test the limits of my self control to keep from murdering them
its never up to you to prove innocence, its up to the state to prove who did it, but for parking tickets those are the owners responsibility, because they know everyone would just say, oh i wasnt driving it then, but in a moving violation they have to identify the driver
http://www.aolnews.com/story/driver-...-camera/661005
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03-23-2010, 10:18 AM
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03-23-2010, 12:54 PM
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I'm not gonna let anyone use my bike unless I know they can/will pay for it. My uncle is the only one that fits in that category and he's been on a motorcycle for a while. He's the only one with experience and the cash that I know of. He rides a 2009 HD Sportster 1200 and still wants to ride my F3. 
lol
I'm freaked out enough by letting people sit on my bike.
lolI'm freaked out enough by letting people sit on my bike.
#88
03-23-2010, 01:02 PM
its never up to you to prove innocence, its up to the state to prove who did it, but for parking tickets those are the owners responsibility, because they know everyone would just say, oh i wasnt driving it then, but in a moving violation they have to identify the driver
http://www.aolnews.com/story/driver-...-camera/661005
http://www.aolnews.com/story/driver-...-camera/661005
But that's arguing semantics. Vehicle owners have been charged and found guilty when the vehicle was used in the commission of a crime. And in a civil liability suit, a mechanical failure causing injury or damages can fall on the vehicle owner. Since he's responsible for the vehicle's maintenance
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03-23-2010, 03:45 PM
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03-26-2010, 08:14 AM
