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Old 07-21-2011, 06:36 PM
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today i was slowing down to get ready to park the bike at work, and my foot slipped the shift lever down from 3rd to 2nd...it was butter smooth, so i tried shifting up too. i know about rev matching and everything, and it all was flawless shifting, even back down. Are the gears designed to be able to do this, are they near straight cut? or are they worn? I made sure of course that i did not have any load on the engine from the throttle before any shifts. Dealer told me everything was serviced when i bought the bike two months ago.
 
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:33 PM
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Just bc you can dosent mean you should You will round those dogs in no time......clutchless downshifting is worse than up though....I mean, really...ever feel that "clunk"...thats no good......the F4i gearboxs have loose tolerances and are clunky/loud to begin with...they are bulletproof strong but at the end of the day...theres a clutch on the bike for a reason

With only 13k on my 01...and knowing the bike inside and out...ive learned to live with the fact that these gearboxes are just loose and clunky by nature...no need to worry. With such long throws on this gearbox...learn to PRELOAD the shifter and you'll get used to clean shifts

With enough clutchless and misshifts (up in the 1000,s im sure) the dogs will eventually round and not grab anymore....you've got to be beatin her up tho...for years

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Old 07-21-2011, 08:59 PM
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With only 13k on my 01...and knowing the bike inside and out...ive learned to live with the fact that these gearboxes are just loose and clunky by nature...no need to worry. With such long throws on this gearbox...learn to PRELOAD the shifter and you'll get used to clean shifts

ok im dumb what do you mean by preload the shifter?
 
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:15 AM
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With only 13k on my 01...and knowing the bike inside and out...ive learned to live with the fact that these gearboxes are just loose and clunky by nature...no need to worry. With such long throws on this gearbox...learn to PRELOAD the shifter and you'll get used to clean shifts

ok im dumb what do you mean by preload the shifter?
No your not dumb...preloading the shifter merely means you are taking out play from the shifter for quicker, shorter shifts....when your ready to shift, you merely "load" the shifter with your foot by putting slight pressure on it...that way when your ready to shift, pull the clutch and pop your foot up...and you should shift much faster than if you were to throw your foot under there and pop up...with preloading, your already half way there!
 
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:22 AM
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+1 about rounded dogs. ill never clutchless shift from first to second or second to third, or downshift. ive replaced my tranny once for rounded dogs because of the previous owner....not something im itchin to do again in the near future
 
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:43 AM
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I was pretty sure about that, i just wanted to make sure my gears weren't worn or anything. thanks for the clarification!
 
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