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Old 02-23-2011, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by nickels
ok so you think unspent exhaust gases in the airbox doesnt hurt the hp? The bike wants and needs clean air. It might not be much but it does help.

You're confusing this with EGR. This has nothing to do with unspent exhaust gasses. All it is is recirculated intake air (and fuel). The first link has a gread diagram to help explain it.
 
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:21 PM
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I see the mention of eliminating the popping under deceleration. Will this mod reduce engine braking?
 
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ragnar1x
I see the mention of eliminating the popping under deceleration. Will this mod reduce engine braking?
No. The popping is simply un burnt fuel igniting in the exhaust. Engine breaking is from compression and compression only
 
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Old 02-23-2011, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jp_greenville13
No. The popping is simply un burnt fuel igniting in the exhaust. Engine breaking is from compression and compression only

Right, I understand now. The air is inserted directly into the exhaust flow; it never enters the cylinder. I looked at the diagram in that first link wrong.

It looks like this would be necessary to do before getting a bike tuned. Do most dyno/tune shops do this? Or should I do it before getting my bike tuned?
 
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:16 PM
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Any shop that knows what they're doing should...

Whether or not they actually do.... I have no idea
 
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Old 02-23-2011, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nickels
ok so you think unspent exhaust gases in the airbox doesnt hurt the hp? The bike wants and needs clean air. It might not be much but it does help.
A good, calibrated dyno doesn't lie. No hp gains from removing the system. Period
 
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:48 PM
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dyno shops should remove the line feeding the air from the airbox to the PAIR solenoid. with this mod, they wouldn't need to do that...
 
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Old 02-24-2011, 12:59 AM
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Has anyone done this and gone through a smog check after? Eventually I'll have to get my bike checked yearly.
 
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Old 02-24-2011, 06:54 AM
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Do bikes have to undergo an emissions check in your state? Here in MO only cars and trucks had to have that done.
 
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Old 02-24-2011, 11:13 AM
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Yes bikes do too. We live next to commifornia so we feel we need to be as retarded as them when it comes to emmissions.
 

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