F4 Running Issues
I very well could be, it is unusual to have a pump prime on a carbed bike as there is fuel in the float bowls so can start and run without a pump (even just gravity fed) unlike an injected bike needing the pump to generate the pressure and fuel flow. Could possibly have been over engineering from Mr Honda

I personally don’t see point of pump for carby bikes. Previous generations didn’t have one. I’ve converted my F4s and VFRs to gravity-feed without any problems.
Prime on start is variable too. If bowls are filled from previous ride, pump might not even move full-stroke before turning off, so you won’t hear anything. After carb pull, yeah you won’t have anything in float bowls, so pump may run for second or 2 to fill bowls.
You can do final functional test of pump:
1. Disconnect hose from carbs and aim into measuring cup
2. Key ON, start/stop=RUN
3. Press START for 10s
How much petrol did pump flow?
Prime on start is variable too. If bowls are filled from previous ride, pump might not even move full-stroke before turning off, so you won’t hear anything. After carb pull, yeah you won’t have anything in float bowls, so pump may run for second or 2 to fill bowls.
You can do final functional test of pump:
1. Disconnect hose from carbs and aim into measuring cup
2. Key ON, start/stop=RUN
3. Press START for 10s
How much petrol did pump flow?
Last edited by dannoxyz; Feb 9, 2024 at 02:56 PM.
I personally don’t see point of pump for carby bikes. Previous generations didn’t have one. I’ve converted my F4s and VFRs to gravity-feed without any problems.
Prime on start is variable too. If bowls are filled from previous ride, pump might not even move full-stroke before turning off, so you won’t hear anything. After carb pull, yeah you won’t have anything in float bowls, so pump may run for second or 2 to fill bowls.
You can do final functional test of pump:
1. Disconnect hose from carbs and aim into measuring cup
2. Key ON, start/stop=RUN
3. Press START for 10s
How much petrol did pump flow?
Prime on start is variable too. If bowls are filled from previous ride, pump might not even move full-stroke before turning off, so you won’t hear anything. After carb pull, yeah you won’t have anything in float bowls, so pump may run for second or 2 to fill bowls.
You can do final functional test of pump:
1. Disconnect hose from carbs and aim into measuring cup
2. Key ON, start/stop=RUN
3. Press START for 10s
How much petrol did pump flow?
Just out of interest to convert to gravity im guessing i would just bypass the fuel pump.
Tank - fuel filter - carbs ?
also assuming that then if the fuel relays were at fault it wouldn't mater as the fuel pump wouldn't be needed
yeah, just leave pump & relay as is.
Trick to converting to gravity-feed is to shorten hoses as much as possible. And keep hose-run as vertical as possible without any downward loops where fuel has to go uphill to reach carbs.
Here’s an example. Short with no down/up sections. Maybe just 5” of hose between petcock to carbs.
Trick to converting to gravity-feed is to shorten hoses as much as possible. And keep hose-run as vertical as possible without any downward loops where fuel has to go uphill to reach carbs.
Here’s an example. Short with no down/up sections. Maybe just 5” of hose between petcock to carbs.
yeah, just leave pump & relay as is.
Trick to converting to gravity-feed is to shorten hoses as much as possible. And keep hose-run as vertical as possible without any downward loops where fuel has to go uphill to reach carbs.
Here’s an example. Short with no down/up sections. Maybe just 5” of hose between petcock to carbs.

Trick to converting to gravity-feed is to shorten hoses as much as possible. And keep hose-run as vertical as possible without any downward loops where fuel has to go uphill to reach carbs.
Here’s an example. Short with no down/up sections. Maybe just 5” of hose between petcock to carbs.
Last edited by Scott1503; Feb 9, 2024 at 05:34 PM.
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