Someone tried stealing my bike
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RE: Someone tried stealing my bike
ORIGINAL: SD2007
What did I change? You keep saying that, why?
What did I change? You keep saying that, why?
ORIGINAL: SD2007
I'd grabmy 12 ga. pump and from a safe location, advise him to get lost. If hequickly pulled a gun and got a shot off he'd very likelymiss and I'd be in no danger of going to prison if I popped him.
I'd grabmy 12 ga. pump and from a safe location, advise him to get lost. If hequickly pulled a gun and got a shot off he'd very likelymiss and I'd be in no danger of going to prison if I popped him.
ORIGINAL: SD2007
If some jerk comes running at me shooting,there's no way in hell I'm going to jail unless my cousin Vinnyis representing me.
If some jerk comes running at me shooting,there's no way in hell I'm going to jail unless my cousin Vinnyis representing me.
Then you post unrelated links in an attempt to justify these silly scenarios YOU made up. Where anyone can post links showing where someone goes to jail and someone doesn’t go to jail for similar events. Here are two more of someone going to jail for shooting thieves…
http://www.signonsandiego.com/trib/20040409/news_1n9shot.html
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/156176/
All of the links posted (even your links) quote some DA or law officer saying that it is NOT lawful to use deadly force to stop a car thief. Yet you still argue the point. Given the state & local laws, the aggressiveness of the DA, the politics at play…not to mention the racial imbalance that plagues our legal system; you would contend that the links you posted suffice for everyone in the country to shoot a thief breaking into a car.
Your weak defense is even more pathetic than your naïve comments about being involved in a gunfight and blasting a thief with a 12-gauge? Have you ever been shot at…to know your own reactions? ASSuming the thief would missed, and then you not flinch, duck, freeze, crap your pants….you actually state that you would pop him with a 12-gauge. Right Rambo? Get a Clue. You then claimed to another poster (who called you on it) that you aren’t advocating violence. Yeh, we can see that alright….another contradiction.
Not to mention that ACT II of your naive scenario involves facing the reality of shooting someone, possible retribution, and the uncertainty of your fate with the legal system. Guy #1 in your post was arrested, a radio station bailed him out, and made a public spectacle of his case. Now his name is plastered throughout the news to be judged by those who either agreed or disagreed with his actions. And while the DA decided not to press charges, I am sure the emotional stress; the public spotlight etc was much more troubling than simply filling out a claim for insurance. Plain and Simple.
So what have you accomplished on this thread?
1) You are the one who came on here (a CBR thread) giving us an account of your Rambo Wet Dream about blowing away a thief with a 12-gauge.
2) You are the one now defending this “unrealistic” scenario of blasting a thief with a 12 gauge; all the while trying to convince everyone that you don’t advocate violence.
The point is, SD2007; I have nothing to prove…given that the law is very clear about using deadly force against a car thief. But you can continue to embarrass yourself holding fast to an unrealistic and ridiculous scenario YOU contrived; and now feel obligated to defend. Good luck with that. You are on your own..
Now ask YOURSELF, SD2007. Given the CONTEXT of my ORIGINAL position/statements with all the possible outcomes and worst case scenarios you challenged (including you getting hurt, going to jail etc)…are you still willing to hold fast to your 12-gauge Wet Dream; or would a dose of reality beforehand save you a lot of trouble?
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With posts like that, there's no way this threadcan ever be resolved. Between theadded points of contention and the tone of the reply, I'm content to drop it before this degrades into an insult contest.
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RE: Someone tried stealing my bike
just ride around with a kryptonite chain in ur book bag and if ur gonna go some where for about an hour chain ur swing arm to a pole or somethin.. but over night nothin will save u unless its out of sight..
RE: Someone tried stealing my bike
Screw that ...buy a batman suit and stalk the night for bike stealing ***********. Hang them by their *****. Okay you can shoot them too if you want cause eveyone knows batman has the publics interest at heart. And thanks for saving our bikes...
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Lo jack sucks ***. Put your money in theft prevention not theft recovery. Cops for the most part at night are either asleep or on there laptop doing college. You want to put your luck in that?
This was posted on another forum so I am going to post it here
False Hopes in Lo-Jack
Hey Guys...
I've read plenty of posts on here about bikes being stolen and the various stories that go on with how, when, where, why and what you want to do when you catch them on your bike..
I know first hand the frustrations... I had my K6 taken about 2 months ago.
I've also read the different Lo-Jack stories out there...
Do me a favor guys and gals don't buy into the Hype. Anyone who has had their bike stolen can attest Lo-Jack is not the best system out there for Cycle recovery post theft. There are plenty of cheaper, more reliable systems out there.
Now ...why do I rant...well I love how lo-jack says....and this is from their site..
" Because the motorcycle offers fewer places to hide a LoJack unit, LoJack For Motorcycles has been designed to integrate seamlessly into the body of the bike so thieves can't recognize or disengage it."
-Anyone who has had a bike apart before..knows what is and isn't supposed to be there. The actual unit is rather big compared to most electronics on the bike and is very easily found and disconnected.
Also from the site - When your bike is stolen, a tiny transmitter inside the LoJack unit tells the police exactly where your motorcycle is located so they can track and recover it quickly - often within a few hours. The LoJack transmitter's Radio Frequency signal is so strong it can penetrate through garage walls, steel containers, dense foliage and other places thieves may try to hide your motorcycle.
^ ^ ^ Partially true....think of it like a metal detector.....First...the police car has to be within a certain distance of your bike and it gets automatically activated. The unit pings giving a general location/direction of your bike from the police car. They then call other police cars over and they jointly "track" your bike until it's location is pinpointed.....it does not magically say that your bike is on the corner of Park Ave and Central St.
More from the site...
Learn more about how LoJack For Motorcycles works
* The only stolen vehicle recovery system operated by the Police
* Has helped break up 76 motorcycle theft rings
* LoJack has helped to recover more than $2.8 million in motorcycle assets in the U.S."
^ ^ ^ ...all true...so I'll give them that....
Now recently I went into a Big Name motorcycle shop and they were talking lo-jack up and had the ***** to say that they have a recovery rate of over 92% of all stolen bikes.....I almost pee'd myself I was laughing so hard... what they don't tell you... That % only applies when..
a. the bikes are not stripped and unit deactivated...
b. the bikes are not mobile -Tracking takes time....and how fast do you normally ride your own bike...imagine how fast the jackass who stole it is riding it...
c. the bikes have been "dumped" - AKA Joy ride is over...
d. the bikes have been left to "cool off" - meaning the thieves have left the bike in an obvious location to see if it has lo-jack or any other device. if it is not recovered within a couples of hours to a day or so..they come back and re-steal it. < not sure if Re-Steal is a real word....
e. the bike is still in the country
inherent flaws with the Lo-Jack...
a. It is not a GPS system like On-Star (Although they are not much better) - If it was the police could instantly know where your bike is once you report it stolen and hopefully go smash some heads
b. The system only works once you report it, which is typically hours later once you wake up.....How long does it take to rip the plastics off a bike?
Now....they do have a supplemental insurance plan that will cover approx $5000 towards a new bike....(tried to find the exact info but had a hard time on their website) That'll help, but they bet on the fact that you have insurance and will never hit them up for that $$$$ - Isn't Marketing Great....
I could go on and on....but I've vented enough...I just thought about all the guys and gals who got suckered into thinking Lo-Jack was a save all...
Bottom line guys....don't rely simply on a Lo-Jack as a savior in case your bike gets stolen. There are a few live GPS systems u can get that work great but have similar flaws to Lo-Jack.. Don't forget dealers get a commission for selling each unit, plus the $$ they charge you for install which is different from place to place. Most thieves will have your bike stripped to a frame within hours of being stolen. First thing to go is obviously plastics because the first thing they look for is Lo-Jack. You would be amazed how many of your dealership mechanics - and local shops are the ones stealing the bikes.....
Please do your research, use more than one security device, and ride safe....
This was posted on another forum so I am going to post it here
False Hopes in Lo-Jack
Hey Guys...
I've read plenty of posts on here about bikes being stolen and the various stories that go on with how, when, where, why and what you want to do when you catch them on your bike..
I know first hand the frustrations... I had my K6 taken about 2 months ago.
I've also read the different Lo-Jack stories out there...
Do me a favor guys and gals don't buy into the Hype. Anyone who has had their bike stolen can attest Lo-Jack is not the best system out there for Cycle recovery post theft. There are plenty of cheaper, more reliable systems out there.
Now ...why do I rant...well I love how lo-jack says....and this is from their site..
" Because the motorcycle offers fewer places to hide a LoJack unit, LoJack For Motorcycles has been designed to integrate seamlessly into the body of the bike so thieves can't recognize or disengage it."
-Anyone who has had a bike apart before..knows what is and isn't supposed to be there. The actual unit is rather big compared to most electronics on the bike and is very easily found and disconnected.
Also from the site - When your bike is stolen, a tiny transmitter inside the LoJack unit tells the police exactly where your motorcycle is located so they can track and recover it quickly - often within a few hours. The LoJack transmitter's Radio Frequency signal is so strong it can penetrate through garage walls, steel containers, dense foliage and other places thieves may try to hide your motorcycle.
^ ^ ^ Partially true....think of it like a metal detector.....First...the police car has to be within a certain distance of your bike and it gets automatically activated. The unit pings giving a general location/direction of your bike from the police car. They then call other police cars over and they jointly "track" your bike until it's location is pinpointed.....it does not magically say that your bike is on the corner of Park Ave and Central St.
More from the site...
Learn more about how LoJack For Motorcycles works
* The only stolen vehicle recovery system operated by the Police
* Has helped break up 76 motorcycle theft rings
* LoJack has helped to recover more than $2.8 million in motorcycle assets in the U.S."
^ ^ ^ ...all true...so I'll give them that....
Now recently I went into a Big Name motorcycle shop and they were talking lo-jack up and had the ***** to say that they have a recovery rate of over 92% of all stolen bikes.....I almost pee'd myself I was laughing so hard... what they don't tell you... That % only applies when..
a. the bikes are not stripped and unit deactivated...
b. the bikes are not mobile -Tracking takes time....and how fast do you normally ride your own bike...imagine how fast the jackass who stole it is riding it...
c. the bikes have been "dumped" - AKA Joy ride is over...
d. the bikes have been left to "cool off" - meaning the thieves have left the bike in an obvious location to see if it has lo-jack or any other device. if it is not recovered within a couples of hours to a day or so..they come back and re-steal it. < not sure if Re-Steal is a real word....
e. the bike is still in the country
inherent flaws with the Lo-Jack...
a. It is not a GPS system like On-Star (Although they are not much better) - If it was the police could instantly know where your bike is once you report it stolen and hopefully go smash some heads
b. The system only works once you report it, which is typically hours later once you wake up.....How long does it take to rip the plastics off a bike?
Now....they do have a supplemental insurance plan that will cover approx $5000 towards a new bike....(tried to find the exact info but had a hard time on their website) That'll help, but they bet on the fact that you have insurance and will never hit them up for that $$$$ - Isn't Marketing Great....
I could go on and on....but I've vented enough...I just thought about all the guys and gals who got suckered into thinking Lo-Jack was a save all...
Bottom line guys....don't rely simply on a Lo-Jack as a savior in case your bike gets stolen. There are a few live GPS systems u can get that work great but have similar flaws to Lo-Jack.. Don't forget dealers get a commission for selling each unit, plus the $$ they charge you for install which is different from place to place. Most thieves will have your bike stripped to a frame within hours of being stolen. First thing to go is obviously plastics because the first thing they look for is Lo-Jack. You would be amazed how many of your dealership mechanics - and local shops are the ones stealing the bikes.....
Please do your research, use more than one security device, and ride safe....
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RE: Someone tried stealing my bike
Most thieves will have your bike stripped to a frame within hours of being stolen.
See I would think bikes are worth more whole...I mean I've seen how hit and miss parting out on ebay is, so I wonder if "most thieves" actually send bikes out of the country in one piece. Where was it, Indonesia, somewhere, sportbikes go for three times what North America pays...plus I bet there is a "used" bike market closer to home in places like Brazil (sinto muito, brasileiros).
I agree with the lojack thing though, put all your eggs in that basket, you may be disappointed. But a couple percentage points of chance to recover is better than zero, I guess.
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ORIGINAL: isxaari
Lo jack sucks ***. Put your money in theft prevention not theft recovery. Cops for the most part at night are either asleep or on there laptop doing college. You want to put your luck in that?
This was posted on another forum so I am going to post it here
False Hopes in Lo-Jack
Hey Guys...
I've read plenty of posts on here about bikes being stolen and the various stories that go on with how, when, where, why and what you want to do when you catch them on your bike..
I know first hand the frustrations... I had my K6 taken about 2 months ago.
I've also read the different Lo-Jack stories out there...
Do me a favor guys and gals don't buy into the Hype. Anyone who has had their bike stolen can attest Lo-Jack is not the best system out there for Cycle recovery post theft. There are plenty of cheaper, more reliable systems out there.
Now ...why do I rant...well I love how lo-jack says....and this is from their site..
" Because the motorcycle offers fewer places to hide a LoJack unit, LoJack For Motorcycles has been designed to integrate seamlessly into the body of the bike so thieves can't recognize or disengage it."
-Anyone who has had a bike apart before..knows what is and isn't supposed to be there. The actual unit is rather big compared to most electronics on the bike and is very easily found and disconnected.
Also from the site - When your bike is stolen, a tiny transmitter inside the LoJack unit tells the police exactly where your motorcycle is located so they can track and recover it quickly - often within a few hours. The LoJack transmitter's Radio Frequency signal is so strong it can penetrate through garage walls, steel containers, dense foliage and other places thieves may try to hide your motorcycle.
^ ^ ^ Partially true....think of it like a metal detector.....First...the police car has to be within a certain distance of your bike and it gets automatically activated. The unit pings giving a general location/direction of your bike from the police car. They then call other police cars over and they jointly "track" your bike until it's location is pinpointed.....it does not magically say that your bike is on the corner of Park Ave and Central St.
More from the site...
Learn more about how LoJack For Motorcycles works
* The only stolen vehicle recovery system operated by the Police
* Has helped break up 76 motorcycle theft rings
* LoJack has helped to recover more than $2.8 million in motorcycle assets in the U.S."
^ ^ ^ ...all true...so I'll give them that....
Now recently I went into a Big Name motorcycle shop and they were talking lo-jack up and had the ***** to say that they have a recovery rate of over 92% of all stolen bikes.....I almost pee'd myself I was laughing so hard... what they don't tell you... That % only applies when..
a. the bikes are not stripped and unit deactivated...
b. the bikes are not mobile -Tracking takes time....and how fast do you normally ride your own bike...imagine how fast the jackass who stole it is riding it...
c. the bikes have been "dumped" - AKA Joy ride is over...
d. the bikes have been left to "cool off" - meaning the thieves have left the bike in an obvious location to see if it has lo-jack or any other device. if it is not recovered within a couples of hours to a day or so..they come back and re-steal it. < not sure if Re-Steal is a real word....
e. the bike is still in the country
inherent flaws with the Lo-Jack...
a. It is not a GPS system like On-Star (Although they are not much better) - If it was the police could instantly know where your bike is once you report it stolen and hopefully go smash some heads
b. The system only works once you report it, which is typically hours later once you wake up.....How long does it take to rip the plastics off a bike?
Now....they do have a supplemental insurance plan that will cover approx $5000 towards a new bike....(tried to find the exact info but had a hard time on their website) That'll help, but they bet on the fact that you have insurance and will never hit them up for that $$$$ - Isn't Marketing Great....
I could go on and on....but I've vented enough...I just thought about all the guys and gals who got suckered into thinking Lo-Jack was a save all...
Bottom line guys....don't rely simply on a Lo-Jack as a savior in case your bike gets stolen. There are a few live GPS systems u can get that work great but have similar flaws to Lo-Jack.. Don't forget dealers get a commission for selling each unit, plus the $$ they charge you for install which is different from place to place. Most thieves will have your bike stripped to a frame within hours of being stolen. First thing to go is obviously plastics because the first thing they look for is Lo-Jack. You would be amazed how many of your dealership mechanics - and local shops are the ones stealing the bikes.....
Please do your research, use more than one security device, and ride safe....
Lo jack sucks ***. Put your money in theft prevention not theft recovery. Cops for the most part at night are either asleep or on there laptop doing college. You want to put your luck in that?
This was posted on another forum so I am going to post it here
False Hopes in Lo-Jack
Hey Guys...
I've read plenty of posts on here about bikes being stolen and the various stories that go on with how, when, where, why and what you want to do when you catch them on your bike..
I know first hand the frustrations... I had my K6 taken about 2 months ago.
I've also read the different Lo-Jack stories out there...
Do me a favor guys and gals don't buy into the Hype. Anyone who has had their bike stolen can attest Lo-Jack is not the best system out there for Cycle recovery post theft. There are plenty of cheaper, more reliable systems out there.
Now ...why do I rant...well I love how lo-jack says....and this is from their site..
" Because the motorcycle offers fewer places to hide a LoJack unit, LoJack For Motorcycles has been designed to integrate seamlessly into the body of the bike so thieves can't recognize or disengage it."
-Anyone who has had a bike apart before..knows what is and isn't supposed to be there. The actual unit is rather big compared to most electronics on the bike and is very easily found and disconnected.
Also from the site - When your bike is stolen, a tiny transmitter inside the LoJack unit tells the police exactly where your motorcycle is located so they can track and recover it quickly - often within a few hours. The LoJack transmitter's Radio Frequency signal is so strong it can penetrate through garage walls, steel containers, dense foliage and other places thieves may try to hide your motorcycle.
^ ^ ^ Partially true....think of it like a metal detector.....First...the police car has to be within a certain distance of your bike and it gets automatically activated. The unit pings giving a general location/direction of your bike from the police car. They then call other police cars over and they jointly "track" your bike until it's location is pinpointed.....it does not magically say that your bike is on the corner of Park Ave and Central St.
More from the site...
Learn more about how LoJack For Motorcycles works
* The only stolen vehicle recovery system operated by the Police
* Has helped break up 76 motorcycle theft rings
* LoJack has helped to recover more than $2.8 million in motorcycle assets in the U.S."
^ ^ ^ ...all true...so I'll give them that....
Now recently I went into a Big Name motorcycle shop and they were talking lo-jack up and had the ***** to say that they have a recovery rate of over 92% of all stolen bikes.....I almost pee'd myself I was laughing so hard... what they don't tell you... That % only applies when..
a. the bikes are not stripped and unit deactivated...
b. the bikes are not mobile -Tracking takes time....and how fast do you normally ride your own bike...imagine how fast the jackass who stole it is riding it...
c. the bikes have been "dumped" - AKA Joy ride is over...
d. the bikes have been left to "cool off" - meaning the thieves have left the bike in an obvious location to see if it has lo-jack or any other device. if it is not recovered within a couples of hours to a day or so..they come back and re-steal it. < not sure if Re-Steal is a real word....
e. the bike is still in the country
inherent flaws with the Lo-Jack...
a. It is not a GPS system like On-Star (Although they are not much better) - If it was the police could instantly know where your bike is once you report it stolen and hopefully go smash some heads
b. The system only works once you report it, which is typically hours later once you wake up.....How long does it take to rip the plastics off a bike?
Now....they do have a supplemental insurance plan that will cover approx $5000 towards a new bike....(tried to find the exact info but had a hard time on their website) That'll help, but they bet on the fact that you have insurance and will never hit them up for that $$$$ - Isn't Marketing Great....
I could go on and on....but I've vented enough...I just thought about all the guys and gals who got suckered into thinking Lo-Jack was a save all...
Bottom line guys....don't rely simply on a Lo-Jack as a savior in case your bike gets stolen. There are a few live GPS systems u can get that work great but have similar flaws to Lo-Jack.. Don't forget dealers get a commission for selling each unit, plus the $$ they charge you for install which is different from place to place. Most thieves will have your bike stripped to a frame within hours of being stolen. First thing to go is obviously plastics because the first thing they look for is Lo-Jack. You would be amazed how many of your dealership mechanics - and local shops are the ones stealing the bikes.....
Please do your research, use more than one security device, and ride safe....
Let me put some arguements comparing other "theft deterrent systems":
Alarms are great, even better if you have the pager system. But they are not theft-proof. it only takes 2 guys and a van/pickup and 30 seconds to steal your bike. now if you're more than 30secs awaywhen that pager goes off you're screwed. I have 2 good riding buddies who had both their 06Gix1k's stolen in front of their apt complex. One of the bikes had a Scorpio alarm pager system... didn't do squat.
Same goes for a chain or brake lock. There's a video out there that shows how any thief can break ANY chain with a professional cable/wire cutter. Brake locks, they'll just load it up on a van/pickup.
I've personally known far too many of my riding buddies getting their precious bike stolen from them. NONE of them had Lojack altho they had alarms, disc locks, etc. The only real protection you can have (other than ur firearm of course) is full coverage insurance and a secure garage/storage unit.
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RE: Someone tried stealing my bike
I have full coverage insurance, if my bike gets jacked I'll buy a new one. I have no problem with that.
Come in my house to fukk with me and it's a whole new game. Texas let's us protect our homes.
Come in my house to fukk with me and it's a whole new game. Texas let's us protect our homes.
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Ok i know im a newbie to this forum BUT, im not a newbie to guns or how i should act in a situation like this. Everyone who carrie should practise quick draw and fire techniques. If someone is messing with your bike grab your side arm and holster and put it on your back belt line be prepared. Look around and observe your situation.....dont get tunnel vision...think like he would. He knows what hes stealing if its something expensive hes problly bought back up.......if its something like a 600 or something alittle less exp hes workin alone. Look at his cloths...are they baggy? could he hide a weapon. I can do all of this as im walkin out to the situation. If he reacts in any way i see threating i quick pull my weapon and discharge fast and quick. I was taught by ex delta force and rangers how to quick draw and put rounds out accuratly and effectly. Theres no need to use force unless he makes a dangerous move like reaches for his pants or comes at you. A man stealing a ducati is problly gonna put up more of a fight than a man stealing a 600RR or a r6. Keep your head in situations like that. Have full coverage and a good alarm insurance companies usually cut you a deal if you have an alarm installed. BTW if u carry a gun carry a knife. Learn to use that knife. If your weapon malfunctions and he comes at you chance are your gonna have to hand to hand fight this man. BTW i carry a 1911 with 1 in the chamber and 8 in the mag and 2 spare mags on me.
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