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i know what the problem is.... you guys sit in here and type more than you practice. i dont know about anybody else but when i ride i do AT LEAST 100 wheelies.... go out find a straight back road... get going about 40mph in 2nd ,stand up (w/left foot on back peg)and clutch the bike up if it dont come up more throttle ... if your up to 10k rpm and it aint coming up hit the rev limiter and pop the clutch.... if it dont come up sell the bike and get a different one.....
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anyone ever experienced this when learning wheelies/riding?
I broke my hand (5th metacarle) when I was like 12-13 years old in a spiral break. Was skate boarding, and never got it fixed properly as at the time I was trying to hide the injury from my parents and it really didn't hurt. Well for years I have had absolutely no issues with that injury and later in life when getting x-rayed by a Dr. after a car srash (Insurance purposes) they told me about the injury. Thats how I found out. The Dr. said it wasn't really a big deal but they could re-break it and set it properly if I wanted. My response..."No thanks"
Well my question is this, after riding today, and practicing wheelies here n there when I got home and sat down my right hand, the one that had the injurie along time ago, didn't hurt or anything, but I had an odd sensation of, well the best way to describe it is, like a tuning fork vibrating in my hand when I'd clap, flick my cigarette, etc. It went away fairly quickly. Just odd, almost like it was begining to go asleep or something. Anyone else ever experienced this? Or do you think maybe it's an old injury acting up?
I broke my hand (5th metacarle) when I was like 12-13 years old in a spiral break. Was skate boarding, and never got it fixed properly as at the time I was trying to hide the injury from my parents and it really didn't hurt. Well for years I have had absolutely no issues with that injury and later in life when getting x-rayed by a Dr. after a car srash (Insurance purposes) they told me about the injury. Thats how I found out. The Dr. said it wasn't really a big deal but they could re-break it and set it properly if I wanted. My response..."No thanks"
Well my question is this, after riding today, and practicing wheelies here n there when I got home and sat down my right hand, the one that had the injurie along time ago, didn't hurt or anything, but I had an odd sensation of, well the best way to describe it is, like a tuning fork vibrating in my hand when I'd clap, flick my cigarette, etc. It went away fairly quickly. Just odd, almost like it was begining to go asleep or something. Anyone else ever experienced this? Or do you think maybe it's an old injury acting up?
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ORIGINAL: LouSiffer
Only a couple of times.....I felt I needed to get comfortable doing the small pop-n-dropp power wheelies before I tried clutching. I am pretty comfortable with the power wheelies now except for when I have a full tank of gas, I can't really ride them out, I have basically been trying to get comfortable with bringing the wheel up higher not so much of the riding them out. I end up riding them out for really short distances because of the kind of wheelie they are, can't help but ride the wheelie for like 15-20 feet when you power it up and get it up to like 9-10 o'clock. When I tried clutching them I think I was being really cautious (which to me isn't really a bad thing) and only got the wheel up like once out 3-4 tries. It came up a really wimpy couple of inches. It just feels really weird trying to clutch them since I am sacrificing one finger to work the clutch. Feels like I'm not hanging on to the grips as much as when I do powered ones. I can see why people suggest clutched wheelies over power ones though if it's true that they are more consistant. Because one thing I can attest to is powering them can indeed be very inconsistant. I can power them up in 1st and 2nd gear but I don't like trying them in 2nd as you got to be going faster, and a screw up would be that much more devistating. I like the idea of clutching them for the simple fact that appearently they can be done at low speeds and are more consistant. I watched the video I found on here "How to wheelie" and it suggested to get comfortable powering them up first, and to start small. So thats what I been doing. I only did one wheelie in 2nd to see if I could and it took me a couple of tries but I got it up and I didn't like having to go faster to get it up. So I'll stick to 1st gear power-up and maybe try clutching them here n there. But to be honest Clutching them feels like I have less control and seems harder for me to get them up. When I clutched it I did it in first gear from a slow roll, and when it came up it came up FAST. Kinda scary if ya ask me. Like I said I'll just keep getting more comfortable with "roll-ons" or powered wheelies before I progress to clutching. Unless someone thinks This is a bad idea and can explain to me why. Any pointers are appreciated. I am trying to take baby steps not ride a wheelies for 15 mins at 100 MPH within the first 2 months of learning. LOL
Call me a sissy but I like my skin and my bike. I'd rather take my time and get it right slowly.
Only a couple of times.....I felt I needed to get comfortable doing the small pop-n-dropp power wheelies before I tried clutching. I am pretty comfortable with the power wheelies now except for when I have a full tank of gas, I can't really ride them out, I have basically been trying to get comfortable with bringing the wheel up higher not so much of the riding them out. I end up riding them out for really short distances because of the kind of wheelie they are, can't help but ride the wheelie for like 15-20 feet when you power it up and get it up to like 9-10 o'clock. When I tried clutching them I think I was being really cautious (which to me isn't really a bad thing) and only got the wheel up like once out 3-4 tries. It came up a really wimpy couple of inches. It just feels really weird trying to clutch them since I am sacrificing one finger to work the clutch. Feels like I'm not hanging on to the grips as much as when I do powered ones. I can see why people suggest clutched wheelies over power ones though if it's true that they are more consistant. Because one thing I can attest to is powering them can indeed be very inconsistant. I can power them up in 1st and 2nd gear but I don't like trying them in 2nd as you got to be going faster, and a screw up would be that much more devistating. I like the idea of clutching them for the simple fact that appearently they can be done at low speeds and are more consistant. I watched the video I found on here "How to wheelie" and it suggested to get comfortable powering them up first, and to start small. So thats what I been doing. I only did one wheelie in 2nd to see if I could and it took me a couple of tries but I got it up and I didn't like having to go faster to get it up. So I'll stick to 1st gear power-up and maybe try clutching them here n there. But to be honest Clutching them feels like I have less control and seems harder for me to get them up. When I clutched it I did it in first gear from a slow roll, and when it came up it came up FAST. Kinda scary if ya ask me. Like I said I'll just keep getting more comfortable with "roll-ons" or powered wheelies before I progress to clutching. Unless someone thinks This is a bad idea and can explain to me why. Any pointers are appreciated. I am trying to take baby steps not ride a wheelies for 15 mins at 100 MPH within the first 2 months of learning. LOL
Call me a sissy but I like my skin and my bike. I'd rather take my time and get it right slowly.
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ORIGINAL: twistatech
i know what the problem is.... you guys sit in here and type more than you practice. i dont know about anybody else but when i ride i do AT LEAST 100 wheelies.... go out find a straight back road... get going about 40mph in 2nd ,stand up (w/left foot on back peg)and clutch the bike up if it dont come up more throttle ... if your up to 10k rpm and it aint coming up hit the rev limiter and pop the clutch.... if it dont come up sell the bike and get a different one.....
i know what the problem is.... you guys sit in here and type more than you practice. i dont know about anybody else but when i ride i do AT LEAST 100 wheelies.... go out find a straight back road... get going about 40mph in 2nd ,stand up (w/left foot on back peg)and clutch the bike up if it dont come up more throttle ... if your up to 10k rpm and it aint coming up hit the rev limiter and pop the clutch.... if it dont come up sell the bike and get a different one.....
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so if I am doing power wheelies in the 6k-6.5k RPM range in 1st gear. That is NOT the RPM range to be clutching them while rolling in 1st gear?
Because this is what I thought and when I did try clutching it came up in that range but it came up like POW and scared the crap out of me. I mean, it came up high and fast. I had to immediately hit the rear brake to bring it down as it felt like it was going to loop. I am riding a 1991 CBR 600 F2 and it has no problems getting up, the problem is me. So any help to guide me in the right direction is much appreciated.
Because this is what I thought and when I did try clutching it came up in that range but it came up like POW and scared the crap out of me. I mean, it came up high and fast. I had to immediately hit the rear brake to bring it down as it felt like it was going to loop. I am riding a 1991 CBR 600 F2 and it has no problems getting up, the problem is me. So any help to guide me in the right direction is much appreciated.
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Haha. Do that a couple dozen more times and you will have the balance point lol.
If you want to be less scared, go from about 4k and try clutching. Then again I have no clue what your 91 is like. you will almost certainly have to adjust to your bike.
If you want to be less scared, go from about 4k and try clutching. Then again I have no clue what your 91 is like. you will almost certainly have to adjust to your bike.
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Ok I have practiced my @$$ off today with clutching them and I am starting to get it to "crust" more consistantly. It just comes up a few inches but it's a start. Thing I am worried about a little is I still have to get the whole feathering the clutch while revving in unison thing down. It seems to me learning to wheelie this way is way hard on clutch plates etc. Is this the case? Because I still sometimes dump the clutch causing the bike to lurch and when I do get it to work it feels so perfect but when it's "perfect" it feels like when your in a car slipping the clutch, which in a car is really bad for your clutch. I was wondering if this is the same for bikes, and if so, how bad do you think it is? Am I going to be tearing the clutch/transmission up horribly by practicing this? Thanks for all the input thus far guys. I couldn't have gotten to the point I'm at now with out your help.
Well I'm going back out to practice some more.
Well I'm going back out to practice some more.
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my bike has 19000 miles on it now and still the factory clutch as far as i know... so you should be alright with that ... if you do need a clutch sometime they are pretty cheap... other then that you shouldnt break anything... and my hand used to fall asleep all the time and a couple of my fingers would get numb for like 3-4 days from riding but i got some icon gloves and that solved that problem....
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