That is an excellent video about counter steering, thank you for posting that woot :-)

At 2:00 it describes and shows the thing I have often said that counter steering is only done briefly as you turn and once in the turn
you let the bike track naturally with the bend ... it's quite hard to visualise this but this video shows it well,
the initial counter steer is only performed to get the bike over at the correct angle and once tracking with the bend your steering input is neutral :-)

 

Neutral - or - at times still counter steering... he mentions that you have to balance the outwards throw of the corner, with the inwards fall/lean initiated by the counter steer. If you go fast enough you might need to add more counter steer...

I think.



ya - I enjoyed them as well.

 

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Good read...luckily for me when I was younger my friend who showed me how to ride explained CS to me perfectly...it really comes naturally but the more you understand it the better control you will have when trying to avoid dangerous street situations.

 

That's how it was explained verbally to me before i got on the bike...counter steering initiates the lean that will counterbalance the outwards throw.

If you are aware of what is happening when you counter steer it really does improve your handling and in return the safety of riding on public roads.


edit- and yes as you accelerate through the turn additional countersteer/lean is needed to balance the additional outward throw caused by the increased speed. :S

With time and experience and proper knowledge we can all safely take hi-speed turns with a perfect smooth line....it's almost better then sex

 

Lol... All this CS talk has me thinking too much. Was riding this morning and found myself thinking "um... which way to push?!?"

 

Funny thing is by the time I figured out which way to push, I was thru that particular turn. It's one of those cases where the forgotten past came to the fore.

Been said several times in this thread we countersteer and don't even realize it. I'd guess it's almost dangerous to tell someone who has riding experience about it because they might think too much about it. To the point where they stop doing what came naturally already.

Now if Juliet or someone would work on some low speed tips, that'd be appreciated. I'm finding myself taking turns at speed so I don't have the low speed wobble

 

It's really complicated ... push right -- go right. Push left -- go left. What the hell you gotta think about