Windows Mojave
ORIGINAL: woot
I just have to ask -
Windows XP on a clean 5 year old system, with Office 2001... versus a brand new vista machine with Office 2007. Which one prints a better document? Which one browses the internet better? Which one is cheaper?
Very few people need a new computer - most people just need to clean their **** off their old ones.
I just have to ask -
Windows XP on a clean 5 year old system, with Office 2001... versus a brand new vista machine with Office 2007. Which one prints a better document? Which one browses the internet better? Which one is cheaper?

Very few people need a new computer - most people just need to clean their **** off their old ones.

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ORIGINAL: PlayfulGod
office 2003 was better than 2000. For basic needs, as browsing, word processing etc, one doesnt needs the latest n greatest. Hell 99% of us dont. So I agree with you on that aspect. Does Vista suck tho? No 98% of the tyme the ppl whining, bitching, n moaning just dont like change, dont know how to turn shyt off, and/or download n install lord knows what n then blames the OS for their woes. I see it daily, n w/o fail its the end users fault not Vista or anyother OS for that matter.
ORIGINAL: woot
I just have to ask -
Windows XP on a clean 5 year old system, with Office 2001... versus a brand new vista machine with Office 2007. Which one prints a better document? Which one browses the internet better? Which one is cheaper?
Very few people need a new computer - most people just need to clean their **** off their old ones.
I just have to ask -
Windows XP on a clean 5 year old system, with Office 2001... versus a brand new vista machine with Office 2007. Which one prints a better document? Which one browses the internet better? Which one is cheaper?

Very few people need a new computer - most people just need to clean their **** off their old ones.
Yer you have the right to your opinion like every one ..

but...
you are not with the majority man

by the way .. I have better things to do that " turn **** on and off "

and yes ... most non nerdy types cannot and never will be able to " turn **** on and off " and that's the point ....
Why build OS's that most have drama when using ...??
I think it is just that OS' should be built for the general users ... not us nerdy types like us ..
[align=center]Not everyone can afford 2 gig of ram man ... to run the semi trailor style OS's either..
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ORIGINAL: CBRclassic
As one geek to another ... your assessment of vista is your opinion and is your right, but is way against the popular view..
Yer you have the right to your opinion like every one ..
but...
you are not with the majority man
by the way .. I have better things to do that " turn **** on and off "
and yes ... most non nerdy types cannot and never will be able to " turn **** on and off " and that's the point ....
Why build OS's that most have drama when using ...??
I think it is just that OS' should be built for the general users ... not us nerdy types like us ..
[align=center]Not everyone can afford 2 gig of ram man ... to run the semi trailor style OS's either..
[/align]
ORIGINAL: PlayfulGod
office 2003 was better than 2000. For basic needs, as browsing, word processing etc, one doesnt needs the latest n greatest. Hell 99% of us dont. So I agree with you on that aspect. Does Vista suck tho? No 98% of the tyme the ppl whining, bitching, n moaning just dont like change, dont know how to turn shyt off, and/or download n install lord knows what n then blames the OS for their woes. I see it daily, n w/o fail its the end users fault not Vista or anyother OS for that matter.
ORIGINAL: woot
I just have to ask -
Windows XP on a clean 5 year old system, with Office 2001... versus a brand new vista machine with Office 2007. Which one prints a better document? Which one browses the internet better? Which one is cheaper?
Very few people need a new computer - most people just need to clean their **** off their old ones.
I just have to ask -
Windows XP on a clean 5 year old system, with Office 2001... versus a brand new vista machine with Office 2007. Which one prints a better document? Which one browses the internet better? Which one is cheaper?

Very few people need a new computer - most people just need to clean their **** off their old ones.
Yer you have the right to your opinion like every one ..

but...
you are not with the majority man

by the way .. I have better things to do that " turn **** on and off "

and yes ... most non nerdy types cannot and never will be able to " turn **** on and off " and that's the point ....
Why build OS's that most have drama when using ...??
I think it is just that OS' should be built for the general users ... not us nerdy types like us ..
[align=center]Not everyone can afford 2 gig of ram man ... to run the semi trailor style OS's either..
[/align]
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true but most non-geek or nerdy types need protected from themselves which Vista does, to a point that its %*%* annoying lol
although the better antivirus's with multiple areas of protection these days do a preety dam good job protecting them .....I wonder though how far do we go with this online paranoia , do they need double protection triple ?????
[align=center]Good / Bad : Right / Wrong : Correct / Incorrect
All just depends on the individuals point of view and the their perspective
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ORIGINAL: CBRclassic
Yup ... you are correct there mate ...
although the better antivirus's with multiple areas of protection these days do a preety dam good job protecting them .....
I wonder though how far do we go with this online paranoia , do they need double protection triple ?????
[align=center]Good / Bad : Right / Wrong : Correct / Incorrect
All just depends on the individuals point of view and the their perspective
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true but most non-geek or nerdy types need protected from themselves which Vista does, to a point that its %*%* annoying lol
although the better antivirus's with multiple areas of protection these days do a preety dam good job protecting them .....I wonder though how far do we go with this online paranoia , do they need double protection triple ?????
[align=center]Good / Bad : Right / Wrong : Correct / Incorrect
All just depends on the individuals point of view and the their perspective
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Unreal mate ...
That exactly what we do here in the office at home ..
All our P/C's are naked basically except for good old AVG ....
[align=center]Great minds think alike
and...
bull **** artists talk the same ****t ??


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That exactly what we do here in the office at home ..
All our P/C's are naked basically except for good old AVG ....

[align=center]Great minds think alike
and...
bull **** artists talk the same ****t ??



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ive heard about Mojave before...
i like and dislike Vista so far..it seems to crash a lot on my games...if not crashes on a lot of programs...it likes to eat my RAM. I like Windows XP..i thought it was great, Windows could of just redone XP.
i like and dislike Vista so far..it seems to crash a lot on my games...if not crashes on a lot of programs...it likes to eat my RAM. I like Windows XP..i thought it was great, Windows could of just redone XP.
ORIGINAL: Kc31019
ive heard about Mojave before...
i like and dislike Vista so far..it seems to crash a lot on my games...if not crashes on a lot of programs...it likes to eat my RAM. I like Windows XP..i thought it was great, Windows could of just redone XP.
ive heard about Mojave before...
i like and dislike Vista so far..it seems to crash a lot on my games...if not crashes on a lot of programs...it likes to eat my RAM. I like Windows XP..i thought it was great, Windows could of just redone XP.
Forgive me for not going through all the posts on here and skipping to my response, as I may or may not say things that have already been said. Although I still won't use Vista on my home machine, I must admit that Vista has made tremendous improvements since the first time I used it in it's Beta version at work. Yes, it's annoying with it's constant pop-ups and it often feels like a pesky child asking your permission to do everything, it's MS's most secure OS to date.
People like to bitch and complain about MS products and their lack of security, but what most people don't get is that other OS's out there are not as secure as they think. It's simply a matter of numbers, in that it's not economical for malicious code writers to waste their time trying to get into Macs and Linux boxes when a vast majority of home users are running Windows.
Think of it this way. You're a car thief, and to be an efficient car thief, you want to learn as much as you can about the vulnerabilities of the cars you intend to steal. Do you go out and learn how to steal Bugati Veyrons??? Hell no, you figure out how to steal Honda Accords!! If anybody thinks that other operating systems are more secure because of superior programming, you are dead wrong. The real security issue is the number of people dedicated to cracking MS vulnerabilites as compared to other OS's.
Now, just to be my usual hypocritical self and argue both sides of the argument, I think Vista was a useless and unneccesary upgrade. It has the Millenium Edition vibe to it, and I can't seem to shake that feeling. I simply see no need to upgrade upon XP, which IMHO has become a stable, fast, and secure OS. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." But we all know better than that. MS is a business, and a greedy one at that. They are the EA Sports of the OS world, constantly polishing turds and presenting them as golden nuggets.
It's like they said, "Ok, we got XP and it's a great success! We've made some great changes and updates over the years through patches and upgrades, but let's do this. Let's make a new OS, and we'll start by making the system requirements higher than the average computer out there. Then we're gonna take all the most important features of the OS, such as administrative tools, shut down and restart buttons and menu options and we're going to make them really hard to find, even though these common features have been in the same familiar location since Windows 95. Then we're gonna take off our shirts and kiss and have an orgy in a pile of all the money we make."
People like to bitch and complain about MS products and their lack of security, but what most people don't get is that other OS's out there are not as secure as they think. It's simply a matter of numbers, in that it's not economical for malicious code writers to waste their time trying to get into Macs and Linux boxes when a vast majority of home users are running Windows.
Think of it this way. You're a car thief, and to be an efficient car thief, you want to learn as much as you can about the vulnerabilities of the cars you intend to steal. Do you go out and learn how to steal Bugati Veyrons??? Hell no, you figure out how to steal Honda Accords!! If anybody thinks that other operating systems are more secure because of superior programming, you are dead wrong. The real security issue is the number of people dedicated to cracking MS vulnerabilites as compared to other OS's.
Now, just to be my usual hypocritical self and argue both sides of the argument, I think Vista was a useless and unneccesary upgrade. It has the Millenium Edition vibe to it, and I can't seem to shake that feeling. I simply see no need to upgrade upon XP, which IMHO has become a stable, fast, and secure OS. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." But we all know better than that. MS is a business, and a greedy one at that. They are the EA Sports of the OS world, constantly polishing turds and presenting them as golden nuggets.
It's like they said, "Ok, we got XP and it's a great success! We've made some great changes and updates over the years through patches and upgrades, but let's do this. Let's make a new OS, and we'll start by making the system requirements higher than the average computer out there. Then we're gonna take all the most important features of the OS, such as administrative tools, shut down and restart buttons and menu options and we're going to make them really hard to find, even though these common features have been in the same familiar location since Windows 95. Then we're gonna take off our shirts and kiss and have an orgy in a pile of all the money we make."






