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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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cops deal with things most of you will never understand. not only do they deal with things you wont understand most feel they can not talk about it with any more. most of them have more things bottled up in them then you could ever imagine.

second if the cop broke laws and department procedure he should be held accountable. how ever sometimes people make mistakes cops are human just like you it happens.

the biker should be held just as responsible as the cop. if the biker didn't run we wouldn't even be discussing this. dont detract from what he did just becuase the police officer made bad decisions.
And that would be????

In that case everyone should be let go, were all human right?

The only reason he is getting off with evading a police officer is because they let the police officer go. Im sure if the officer was convicted they would of gave the kid a ticket.

You made no compelling argument at all
 
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 10:57 PM
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i know i said i was going to make one post about it but this is just to clarify things.

i made no compelling argument becuase im not arguing for this police officer. im merely stating facts for the ignorant people on this board who turn around and say police are pigs, dirt bags, and scum ect. i think police officers should be held acountable for there actions to and even higher standard then any one else. you sign up for it you know you must be a man of integrity to do this job. on the other hand there has to be a relization that some times cops who are people make mistaks. i dont belive this guy did though.

my point about all being human is that cops are human just like you. there are good one and bad ones. cops make much more diffcult decsions in there line of work then most people. some of you are very ignorat people.

what are the things police officers go throught. how about the cop that had to deal with the drunk guy with no drivers licence that hit a kid out infront of my house at 55mph and killed the kid at 10 years old. try being the cop first on the scene to that trying to arest the guy and do cpr on a dieing kid. you when you get fustrated about your work you talk about it with your family most cops dont want to tell there family about the kid that died and had his arm ripped off. or what about the cop that has to shot some one. there is a lot of psycological pressure put on them.

people in the military chose the carears they are in to. but you here people fight for them all the time. and when we send them off to war like iraq you here people protest and bitch to bring them home. why they signed up for it acording to your philosophy. dont give someone crap for doing there job if you werent breaking the law they wouldnt be there harasing you.

 
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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95camaro01f4i i agree with you.

We are not aruging in favor of the cop. We all agree he did a big mistake and people died,welcome to life. People die because of mistakes and recklessness. But start from square 1 - what caused this? the biker from the beginning. of course that cop shouldnt have pursed,, but no one is in his shoes at the moment. the only thing you see is him accidentally killing to innocent people while he was trying to stop at reckless driver from harming other people. You cant go calling every cop a power hungry double standard person because there young or they have a type a personality. COps deal with things everyday. dont lable cops bad cause of this,, people screw up everyday.

Why isnt any one b!tching about training a 18 yr old soldier how to use a firearm and aim it at people and shoot. We dont b!tch about that because we know and realize the these poeple are being tested every day of their lives and we not things happen. But because one soldiers shoots a civilian because of the over whelming stress he puts up with day in and day out doesnt me soldiers in general are like that. same goes for the cop. Sure its a guy speeding on a motorcycle,, no big deal, its just speeding why would that cop pursue. prolly cause he watches hours of video and police training dealing with unintelligent people doing reckless crap every day. He tried to take it into his own hands a failed. yes he is accountable, but dont disrespect other cops because of it. it sucks that people died, i feel horrible about it,

its to easy to sit back and point out the wrong of others and say allowed what they did and what they deserve. Each person on here has done something wrong in their life, maybe they didnt get caught, maybe no one saw, but how different that could have been if something happened. how many people can sit back and b!tch about you. How many people in here use a turn signal when they switch lanes,, how hard is it to flip a lever to acknowledge the people around you and to let them know you are switching. people scerw up everyday,,, no one is perfect. im not saying forgive the cop for doing that, thats your choice. but to mark cops as double standard people,, power hungry ,,, thats crap. Next time something bad happens to you,,, and some ******* cut you off in traffic cause his journy was more important,, dont bitch about a cop..

if it wasnt for everyday people making mistakes,, then we wouldnt need cops,, but until we start learning to respectful and follow some basic rules,,, dont get pissed that a cop pulls you over for barely speeding,, or barely doing anything wrong. they make a difference in this world,, dont **** on them for make a bad judgement call once in a while.

i quess it is true Hate is no good if you can't show it

 
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:56 PM
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my point about all being human is that cops are human just like you. there are good one and bad ones. cops make much more diffcult decsions in there line of work then most people. some of you are very ignorat people.

what are the things police officers go throught. how about the cop that had to deal with the drunk guy with no drivers licence that hit a kid out infront of my house at 55mph and killed the kid at 10 years old. try being the cop first on the scene to that trying to arest the guy and do cpr on a dieing kid. you when you get fustrated about your work you talk about it with your family most cops dont want to tell there family about the kid that died and had his arm ripped off. or what about the cop that has to shot some one. there is a lot of psycological pressure put on them.

What about the people who got a knock on their door late one night and were told their S.O. was killed when a car hit them from behind at 120 mph during rush hour traffic? Oh and by the way it was a police officer and he has seen alot of bad things as a police officer so its not his fault. this is not about all the cops,policeman,officers. This is about this one case.

I dont know this cop but he should of pulled off the pursuit with the traffic conditions and since he didn't he killed two people with his actions and this person is trained to logically think about every situation and make the right choice. The Kid on the bike went with gut feelings and ran before thinking about it. but thats what you expect from a kid.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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And if 1 soldier shoots a civilian then that soldier is singled out and punished ... nobody sane would advocate dismantling the armed forces or not training a soldier to use a weapon. I am good friends with and have worked with cops on many occasions and you can't ask for better people. So this thread should not be a cop bashing thread. And so far you 'defenders' are equating 1 bad decision by this 1 officer with all cops.

The truth is if I have a bad cold and take Nyquil and crash into a minivan and hurt someone I can go to jail for 5 years. But he gets off after making an equally bad decision. I don't care if the last speeding motorcyclist pissed in his window as he flew by it doesn't justify going the speeds he was going.

There is no logic in making this about police stress levels in general when it is really only about 1 cop who did something dumb.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 12:07 AM
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its to easy to sit back and point out the wrong of others and say allowed what they did and what they deserve. Each person on here has done something wrong in their life, maybe they didnt get caught, maybe no one saw, but how different that could have been if something happened. how many people can sit back and b!tch about you. How many people in here use a turn signal when they switch lanes,, how hard is it to flip a lever to acknowledge the people around you and to let them know you are switching. people scerw up everyday,,, no one is perfect. im not saying forgive the cop for doing that, thats your choice. but to mark cops as double standard people,, power hungry ,,, thats crap. Next time something bad happens to you,,, and some ******* cut you off in traffic cause his journy was more important,, dont bitch about a cop..

I dont recall not using my blinker and killing two people. Sure its easy to point and blame. It wasnt just an accident, it was improper procedure and im surprised how you guys feel there is no blame for his actions.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 12:08 AM
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it says in the article he turned off his camera.. so how is there a video of it?
and y would he turn off his camera if "he was trying to get his lisence plate number"
wouldnt the camera help? and the fact that he had the time and thought it was necessary to turn the camera off during the chase kinda makes it seem a little mroe shady
is that the firs thing that goes thru cops minds when a chase starts? "o i better turn this camera off..."

sometimes it seems so obvious the cops shoudl get in trouble and they dont
in my hometown at the college a drunk kid was at the wrong house tryin to get in
the people called the cops, thinkin somoene was breaking in
the cops show up and one decides to shoot the unarmed kid 4 times, fatally
he said the guy was lounging at him, although one of the shots was vertically aligned with this kids body, meaning it either came in from the top or bottom after the kid was obviously on his way to the ground
and he got let off, no punishment, besides his paid vacation for a year or so when they were investigating
 
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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If he didn't have his siren on, and didn't have his camera on, where is the proof he was actually chasing a bike?? Might just be a lame excuse, for not wanting to wait in line, and driving dangeriously.
It's probley something his team of lawyers came up with to get him off.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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According to one of the reports he did turn off the camera but that it will come on automatically in certain situations. High speed being one of those situations.
 
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