Yup,I'm 22 and rockin the 98 F3 as well..

 

Thanks mate.....smoooth.

Iagree it was a moronic thing for meto say.[sm=badidea.gif]

Dude don’t drop out of college!

Ok Iknow I phrased it badly but I think you picked at the wrong part of what I was trying to say which was that the child grows into a independent adultand the parentunintentionally misses this transition, obviously if theyoungpersonis completely nuts then the parent would know the best course of action but this chap does not seem....nutty,I alsothink the dad should trust him and his decisions, as I previously stated I reckon he should buy the bike and call his old mans bluff or at least a compromise... buy the bike and do track days?

On a personal note people can return to college,andto imply that people whodon’t achieve higher educational qualifications are less "worthy" in societyis a bigger slur onto some of thiscommunity’smembers than your pop at me.

I can imagine my dad saying the same things..... any sane parent would have a strong reason too.

 

Well guys; i talked to my dad about even getting a small 250, but still the answer is NO. He said i can't drive anything on the road that has wheels until i'm 21. Yes it sucks for me, but i totally understand his point, if i was a parent i probably wouldn't want my son driving a bike either because i'd be afraid of what could happen. So iguess i'm waiting until im 21 to get a bike, which is only a year and a half, so i guess it'll give me some time to really think about it, and i'll even have the money saved up by then to buy a brand new bike. My dad also said that the size of the bike doesn't matter, its just the fact of being on two wheels. He knows i can handle the power, so thats not a problem. The problems is the cars on the road and stupid drivers. So 1 and a half years it is for me, until i can unite with the bikes.

 

so why does a year and a half make any difference .. are the cars and the people that drive them going to drastically change in such a short time frame ?

 

Hell, I'm 28, married, have a kid, my own house, a job, just recently got my CBR on the road and I STILL haven't told my father I got one.

When I lived at home, I never pressed the issue because I knew how my father felt about them. He let me have and run an old dual-sport offroad, but wouldn't hear of me getting a street bike. He had several dual-sports and a harley, which he hit the pavement on and after that never got on another bike (although he's considering getting a big cruiser now). I've mentioned over the years that I still had an interest in getting one and although he knows it's my own decision, he still tells me that he doesn't like the idea of me having one. He's going to find out eventually that I now have one, but now it's my own business and I don't want him to worry about me.

That all being said, my 91 1000F wasn't my first choice in street bikes. It was given to me. I originally wanted to start out on a lighter bike, like a small displacement/light dual sport or something, just to get used to riding on the road and with traffic, something easy to whip around and handle. I know that riding any 2 wheeler on the road can be really dangerous if you're not prepared for it and don't respect it.

Now, it sounds to me like the kid took the MSF course, got gear and has some offroad riding experience. That's good ammo for him, but on-road isn't quite like off road. Street bikes like CBRs don't handle well on gravel and you have to be constantly watching the road conditions (at least, I do). I'm a novice rider myself and my 1000F is my first street bike, not necessarily a good starter bike, but I'm well aware of the type of bike I have and I'm extremely cautious with it.

My recommendations, especially for a testosterone-laden young 'un would be to start off on something smaller and lighter, like what was ridden in the MSF course. Get some experience dealing with traffic and other road conditions, practice safe riding etc before jumping on something with so much power and added weight (I forget which type of CBR you were looking at).

If you can't convince your father to allow the above, then I'd say just hold off and be patient. I had to wait 12 years to fulfill my dream of having a street bike. You probably won't have to wait near as long, but patience can pay off.

 

I don't know where you are getting your information. It appears you tried to read more into this than was intended. I never said anyone was less worthy in any way. I simply said that getting your life in order was way more important than getting a new toy. No more, no less.

Maybe your original post was a little more tongue in cheek than was able to be picked up in text.

And all those out there who keep asking what will change in 1 year and a half or 2 years. Maybe nothing, maybe everything. Maybe he will be almost done with school and more likely to complete it. Or maybe he will have another year or so to think about things and determine what is important in his life. And maybe it's just like anything else (getting a license to begin with, drinking, joining the military, getting married, etc) there is a time or an age that is either a law or a good idea to wait until to be able to do certain things. You think at 15 years and 11 months is any different than 16 years to get a drivers license? No not really but everything has a timeframe or limit attached.
Dude, you will get your bike soon enough, and nothing will be lost.

 

Even though you might not wish to take my advice I would urge you not to "Get more *** than a toilet seat" or"knock up a maddddd hoe"!

christhek I apologise for the crossed wires but Iwas referring to JZHales commentswhen I wrote "to imply that people whodon’t achieve higher educational qualifications are less "worthy" in societyis a bigger slur onto some of thiscommunity’smembers than your pop at me."

I dont find it amusing that I get slated for trying to promote independant thinking and a meaningful relationshipbut JzHales is simply over looked when he referrs to women as hoe's and bitchs.

Do you like guns JZHales, is that your gun? I am sure a psycologist would have somthing to say about over-compensation and the size of your gun.......

 

2 of my friends did this. One, his parents found out whenone ofhis payment bills came in the mail and his mom opend it,but were ok w/ it.
Do you really beleive he will kick you out? or do u think he's just bluffing? If you do then be careful and either wait or DON'T GET CAUGHT.
Also, if you have a friend that you REALLY REALLY trust you could buy it in his name so its techinically not your bike. Anyway, good luck whatever you decide.

 

Ya - I'm in agreement with most posters already.

1) You live at home, it's their rules. That sucks now but when you've got kids it will make sense.

2) I don't think people should be on the road on a bike until they've driven a car on the road for quite some time. 21 makes sense.

3) Brain developlement doesn't complete until ~21... the part that takes the longest is the part that handles cause and effect

4) A 600cc sportbike is not a good choice as a beginner bike.

If you want to win this battle - don't fight - prove you are mature for 19, select a sensible first bike (showing maturity) and demand respect by giving respect. Take the motorcycle training course - you don't need a bike for it, you'll learn alot, and you'll show you're being safe. When my kid gives me the least bit of difficulty they lose the debate - it is not a democracy. Good behaviour gets privaleges, and if you play your cards right, your privalege could be a bike.

Thats my $0.02

 

I agree with the moving out part if you live with him and he wont allow it at his house theres nothing you can do. My 600rr is my first bike as well and I tell all my friends who want bikes not to do what I did because it was a very poor decision in retrospect.

I don't live with my father and he will never be okay with me riding but he understands that there is nothing he can do. In fact when I told him I found a bike I was planning on buying he said if I buy it he will take me off his will. I told him I was okay with that and was going to buy the bike regardless.