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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 08:25 AM
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2010 ford mustang is 3585 curb weight, compared to 2010 camaro ss-3875 and dodges 2010 (challenger) tank at 4135. still the lightest of the big three. and my fox is less than3000 pounds with driver and u can find a 331 mustang already built with lots of bells and whistles for way less than 10grand. and have money left over... lol i continue to stick to my "ford" guns.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Junior2552
because any of the aforementioned cars would be worthless in the snow. as much as i talk up my Subaru's they have some issues in the snow as well.
I can't think of a car any better suited for snow than an AWD with center diff control.... Subaru's are pretty popular up north for that very reason...
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by chuckbear
I can't think of a car any better suited for snow than an AWD with center diff control.... Subaru's are pretty popular up north for that very reason...
thats what I was thinking, in fact right now subaru is running a ad where they are calling the subaru a "snowbaru" and then talk about how its the unofficial vehicle of snow.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 09:32 AM
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lol i continue to stick to my "ford" guns.
I can't blame ya, I would find room in my garage for a car like yours. I like all types of cars, its just a shame that the new cars gained so much weight. I know some of it was due to saftey, but they have all added too much fluff. I wish they would make a no frills base model car with good suspension, brakes and drivetrain. Nothing else... no lighted cup holders, 12 way power heated lumbar seats.. basically all of the interior crap a performance car was never suppose to have.. just a plain car with the essentials.

Its just a shame they are finally making some serious power, and its hampered by excessive weight.

Oh yeah, sorry for the misleading weight figures. It turns out Ford actually initially stated it was 3700+ lbs, but now has recalled that number and said it was a misprint.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 09:49 AM
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lol its all good, i just happend to have a car and driver handy where the mustang, camaro, and challenger head to head to head. but i feel GREAT that they finally started putting some horsepower in a gt, its pushing close to the 03 cobra with just a few more cubes and the cobra has that eaton supercharger on it (even though it was underrated.... severaly)
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by chuckbear
I can't think of a car any better suited for snow than an AWD with center diff control.... Subaru's are pretty popular up north for that very reason...
i know i own 3. i live in Ohio, and they're rear wheel bias, even with the diff control, you can get a 40/60 torque split, and they're extremely light. they do better then 90% of the cars out there. but a WRX, or STi in the snow is a nightmare. i stick to the regular Impreza for winter driving. i wasn't saying it's impossible. but did you see the list? SRT, SS, WRX? none of those cars were built with snow in mind. yeah the WRX is fine in the snow, but it has it's problems as well. the *** slides out alot, even under gentle acceleration, and like i said, they're light, and they slide around like they're on ice. the outback, forester, and impreza are all awesome in the snow. the subarus with forced induction are a little more of a handful.
 

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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 10:52 AM
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All the talk about cars in the snow is silly....honestly we get between 5-10 big snow storms, all of which make the roads slick for ONE day. Give me RWD anyday and I will take it easy and make it home safe. Ill take my fun on the other 355 days out of the year.


Yes, new muscle cars are too heavy!! Anything over 3300lbs I would consider heavy. I absolutely love fox body mustangs, but the engine just isnt as capable as an LS1, with simple bolt.

Anyone with money can engine swap, bore and stroke, FI etc. but the LS1 is just made to be a badass engine.

Why are there so many around me with the Automatic transmission!? AH! I want a performance car that I can shift, not the computer (I am not arguing which is faster or 'better', I just prefer a clutch pedal in whatever I drive).
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones
. I absolutely love fox body mustangs, but the engine just isnt as capable as an LS1, with simple bolt.

Why are there so many around me with the Automatic transmission!? AH! I want a performance car that I can shift, not the computer (I am not arguing which is faster or 'better', I just prefer a clutch pedal in whatever I drive).
you dont miss gears with a built auto. and 9 times out of 10 they shift harder than a manual, although manual is funner to drive. and comparing money, i can find A MEAN 331-347 or 408 windsor stroker for less than 6k and put another 4k in it. i dare a camarro ss, fire bird, transam, ws6 to mess with it...ls1 lt1 whatever... heck i out run ws6s with bolt ons all day at the track and there is nothing special about myfox. its still a 302 cu in.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Junior2552
i know i own 3. i live in Ohio, and they're rear wheel bias, even with the diff control, you can get a 40/60 torque split, and they're extremely light. they do better then 90% of the cars out there. but a WRX, or STi in the snow is a nightmare. i stick to the regular Impreza for winter driving. i wasn't saying it's impossible. but did you see the list? SRT, SS, WRX? none of those cars were built with snow in mind. yeah the WRX is fine in the snow, but it has it's problems as well. the *** slides out alot, even under gentle acceleration, and like i said, they're light, and they slide around like they're on ice. the outback, forester, and impreza are all awesome in the snow. the subarus with forced induction are a little more of a handful.
Well when it comes to snow and ice, no car is perfect.

My point was that, given the list, the WRX is going to be way, way, way, way, way, way, way.... well you get the point... better in winter weather.

Rear-wheel drive, 500+ hp, and winter. lol (not that it was a consideration for the OP's decision)
 

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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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thanks for the clarification chuck, lol. my apologies for the ignorance. hahaha
 
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