Am I too fat/heavy for a CBR600?
#21
10-29-2009, 04:36 PM
I've seen guys as big as the OP on 600s. With girls bigger than me on the back. They don't seem to have any problem riding a 600. I mean its not like any (sane) is planning to race while 2up with a combined weight of 350+. A liter bike might come in handy under those circumstances... But probably so will a squeegee and plastic baggies for the mess later 
Something I learned real quick when I first started riding, what they tried to hammer home during the BRC too: Riding is as much (if not more) about confidence as it is actual skill. So yeah, some people need to start on 600s. Some need to find a nice Ninja 250 to start. Some will never have the confidence in what they know to be anything more than a danger to themselves and others. The OP seems to have a good foundation to build on with his dirt / atv skills.
So I'd say go with the 600. Especially since there are 2 other major things to consider:
P.S.
Just thought of another thing... Your gf might grow to like riding enough to want her own one day. And you might like her enough to give her one. And hey, lookie there! A nice 600 for her and an excuse to go buy that 1000, all wrapped in one
Something I learned real quick when I first started riding, what they tried to hammer home during the BRC too: Riding is as much (if not more) about confidence as it is actual skill. So yeah, some people need to start on 600s. Some need to find a nice Ninja 250 to start. Some will never have the confidence in what they know to be anything more than a danger to themselves and others. The OP seems to have a good foundation to build on with his dirt / atv skills.
So I'd say go with the 600. Especially since there are 2 other major things to consider:
- how much experience does he have riding with a passenger
- how much experience does the passenger have being a passenger
P.S.
Just thought of another thing... Your gf might grow to like riding enough to want her own one day. And you might like her enough to give her one. And hey, lookie there! A nice 600 for her and an excuse to go buy that 1000, all wrapped in one
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10-29-2009, 06:39 PM
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nah....you're good to go
you've got a few inches on me....and i am quite a few lbs heavier (5'11" 260lbs)....so if you're going to be calling out fat asses....point it in my direction
heres a couple pics of a real fat *** on a 600
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600rr
only suggestion i would have for you......especially if you're going to be riding 2 up all the time....get used to suspension adjustments in the rear
find out where it needs to be set for you.....then plan on everytime you go on a 2 up ride.....dial up the preload a few clicks
most important thing on a bike is getting your suspension set up for your weight
good luck with your choice and have fun
you've got a few inches on me....and i am quite a few lbs heavier (5'11" 260lbs)....so if you're going to be calling out fat asses....point it in my direction
heres a couple pics of a real fat *** on a 600
r6
600rr
only suggestion i would have for you......especially if you're going to be riding 2 up all the time....get used to suspension adjustments in the rear
find out where it needs to be set for you.....then plan on everytime you go on a 2 up ride.....dial up the preload a few clicks
most important thing on a bike is getting your suspension set up for your weight
good luck with your choice and have fun
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10-29-2009, 10:19 PM
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Liters are a straight up stupid choice for anyone as a first street bike. Do you realize how unbelievably rediculous that statement was? Anytime you see postings like that or hear people say things like that it's always some guy who just stroking his bragging rights about his literbike. Liter's require far more precise throttle control to do anything, including things as simple as slight turns.
For the record I just picked up another literbike, I've been riding sportbikes for around fifteen years and this isn't my time riding a liter and at times it still spooks me. For someone new to riding? Wow, are you trying to get them killed? Oh I forgot, there's a chance it won't kill most of them. Got it.
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10-29-2009, 10:35 PM
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Pretty good chance eh? Wow that's.. um.. comforting. Should put that in ads. "Buy a Literbike, there's a good chance it won't kill most of you!! Half the time it doesn't kill you all the time!"
Liters are a straight up stupid choice for anyone as a first street bike. Do you realize how unbelievably rediculous that statement was? Anytime you see postings like that or hear people say things like that it's always some guy who just stroking his bragging rights about his literbike. Liter's require far more precise throttle control to do anything, including things as simple as slight turns.
For the record I just picked up another literbike, I've been riding sportbikes for around fifteen years and this isn't my time riding a liter and at times it still spooks me. For someone new to riding? Wow, are you trying to get them killed? Oh I forgot, there's a chance it won't kill most of them. Got it.
Liters are a straight up stupid choice for anyone as a first street bike. Do you realize how unbelievably rediculous that statement was? Anytime you see postings like that or hear people say things like that it's always some guy who just stroking his bragging rights about his literbike. Liter's require far more precise throttle control to do anything, including things as simple as slight turns.
For the record I just picked up another literbike, I've been riding sportbikes for around fifteen years and this isn't my time riding a liter and at times it still spooks me. For someone new to riding? Wow, are you trying to get them killed? Oh I forgot, there's a chance it won't kill most of them. Got it.
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10-29-2009, 10:44 PM
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#27
10-29-2009, 10:47 PM
I'm a big guy too (6'1" and about 245lbs) and I have no problem on my 98 600. I've had a handful of passengers and never was wanting for more power. My bike is a bit older but has a super-comfortable seat and stance. As mentioned by others, pay attention to your rear suspension and tire if you're having a ton of 2 person seat time.
Most of my passenger riding is done around town at cruising speeds and I don't really think I need 40 more horsepower. It's not like I'm pulling the front wheel up or dropping my knees with a girl holding on. Just my 2 cents.
Most of my passenger riding is done around town at cruising speeds and I don't really think I need 40 more horsepower. It's not like I'm pulling the front wheel up or dropping my knees with a girl holding on. Just my 2 cents.
#28
10-29-2009, 11:14 PM
I've seen guys truly need a bigger bike because of their size. Because of their height, not their weight. When people start pushing 6' 6"+, the smaller bikes lack the room for all the legs they're standing on.
Dragging your knees doesn't count if you can do it while the bike is still on the kickstand
#29
10-29-2009, 11:24 PM
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And yet he called me a squid for trying to ride with style...
I've seen guys truly need a bigger bike because of their size. Because of their height, not their weight. When people start pushing 6' 6"+, the smaller bikes lack the room for all the legs they're standing on.
Dragging your knees doesn't count if you can do it while the bike is still on the kickstand
I've seen guys truly need a bigger bike because of their size. Because of their height, not their weight. When people start pushing 6' 6"+, the smaller bikes lack the room for all the legs they're standing on.
Dragging your knees doesn't count if you can do it while the bike is still on the kickstand
#30
10-29-2009, 11:50 PM
I think that the 600 vs 1000 is gonna stay as argued as the 250 vs 600 starting bike. Too much ego in the liter argument tho. Sure, I drooled when I saw a 'busa go down the street before. My F3 taught me better. The liters will always kill me on the long straights.
But I don't race. And the long straights are broken up with stop lights / signs where I do ride