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Hello, I'm a college student who is looking to learn how to ride and get my own motorcycle. I live in Maine and with summer coming fast I have been researching riding and bikes in hopes to learn this summer. I have researched a the license/permitting process. There are courses offered for around $300 that provide beginners with a motorcycle for a 2 day course. One day is riding and the other is for a written exam. If i understand correctly, upon passing the course I can present the certificate at my local DMV and get an official license. The price is steep but this seems reasonable for a beginner. Do any of you know exactly how this works or have any suggestions?
Second of all I'm looking for a motorcycle. I have found this description in my local used auto trader publication.
"1999 Honda CBR 600 F4 red, white and black, exc. cond. New battery, erion exhaust, only 10100 mi. Sounds awesome, very fast, $3500."
I have contacted the seller and will be going to look at this bike over the weekend. I have a family member who is n experienced rider who will accompany me (in order to do a test drive, as I do not have my license yet). I'm wondering if any of you might be able to give me some helpful advice regarding my situation. What kind of quality checks can I do when looking at this bike. Does the 1999 f4 have any common problems i should be aware or look into? and lastly how does the price sound for a bike of this year and mileage?
I'm new to this forum and would appreciate any advice any CBR owners/riders can give, thanks
Sam
Second of all I'm looking for a motorcycle. I have found this description in my local used auto trader publication.
"1999 Honda CBR 600 F4 red, white and black, exc. cond. New battery, erion exhaust, only 10100 mi. Sounds awesome, very fast, $3500."
I have contacted the seller and will be going to look at this bike over the weekend. I have a family member who is n experienced rider who will accompany me (in order to do a test drive, as I do not have my license yet). I'm wondering if any of you might be able to give me some helpful advice regarding my situation. What kind of quality checks can I do when looking at this bike. Does the 1999 f4 have any common problems i should be aware or look into? and lastly how does the price sound for a bike of this year and mileage?
I'm new to this forum and would appreciate any advice any CBR owners/riders can give, thanks
Sam
Hi Sam, I am sure someone here will help with the bike info. you need, I am not that familiar with the 600rr. As for the classes, there is a fantastic program run by the MSF ( motorcycle safety foundation). They have a beginners course that when completed, as long as you passed, they will license you right there. You will need a permit though prior to attending the class. Here is the link http://www.msf-usa.org/ . They supply the bike for the course in Pa. May be same where you are. Check the FAQ. Good luck and welcome.
As far as that bike goes , I would find a bud who rides or know bikes inside and out . But when I check a bike out the first thing I do is look for things that will affect safety such as brake system (check the resi's for fluid , look for markings on the rotors , these will tell you if they are warped or bent real bad if the markings are inconsistant ) , check the functionality of all the lighting system (low beams , hi beams, tail light , brake light , blinkers etc .) check the suspension (does it travel well , is the front end sloppy , are the forks leaking etc. )
After those basic things I take a step back and start looking and listening for things that could possibly affect the price such as :
tires (are the worn badly ? )
plastics ( is there rash or cracks ?)
chain and sprockets (does the chain have alot of play ? If so check the tensionors , if they are maxed out your gonna need a new chain . After that look at the sprockets , first the rear sprocket are the teeth defined or rounded down badly ? If so thats another thing to replace . And the same for the front )
Levers (are they broken or bent do they function properly , have the cables been maintained )
Motor (it may be hard to realy listen to it with that pipe on there but have em fire it up and listen for any knocks or ticks that may peak your attention . If it is a loud pipe on idle try using a piece of wood like a broom handle and place it on the block , that will usually put any knocks right to your ear . Also keep your eye on the levels of fluid just like you would a car and watch for any smoke coming from that pipe no matter what color there shouldn't be any . )
Your not gonna be able to work em down on everything you find and most used bikes are never perfect but things like tires , sprockets , chains etc are normal maintenance anyway .
Also be sure this is the style bike you want to be on and don't step into anything that makes you feel uneasy , that is usaully the first sign that your in over your head .
Brandon
After those basic things I take a step back and start looking and listening for things that could possibly affect the price such as :
tires (are the worn badly ? )
plastics ( is there rash or cracks ?)
chain and sprockets (does the chain have alot of play ? If so check the tensionors , if they are maxed out your gonna need a new chain . After that look at the sprockets , first the rear sprocket are the teeth defined or rounded down badly ? If so thats another thing to replace . And the same for the front )
Levers (are they broken or bent do they function properly , have the cables been maintained )
Motor (it may be hard to realy listen to it with that pipe on there but have em fire it up and listen for any knocks or ticks that may peak your attention . If it is a loud pipe on idle try using a piece of wood like a broom handle and place it on the block , that will usually put any knocks right to your ear . Also keep your eye on the levels of fluid just like you would a car and watch for any smoke coming from that pipe no matter what color there shouldn't be any . )
Your not gonna be able to work em down on everything you find and most used bikes are never perfect but things like tires , sprockets , chains etc are normal maintenance anyway .
Also be sure this is the style bike you want to be on and don't step into anything that makes you feel uneasy , that is usaully the first sign that your in over your head .
Brandon
Wow Brandon, thanks for your response. That is very helpful and exactly what i was looking for. As i'am a beginner to motorcycle riding I have a feeling I will feel a bit nervous around it at first. The important part will to be able to distinguish whether it is the normal gitters or a real sign to reconsider such a bike. I will try and keep this question in mind as i move forward in my hopes to become a rider.
Hello michiesh, the MSF course is extremely helpful in getting you started. Definitely enroll, and like you stated, it's the best way to obtain your endorsement. The F4 would make a good starter bike, imo. Make sure you factor in insurance along with bike costs.
Welcome to the forum & let us in on how it goes
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An F4's honestly not what I'd consider a good starter bike, but, if your set on a 600 sportbike as your first ride it's not a bad choice. Though if you look hard enough you might be able to find a f4i in that price range as well. Going with an F4"i" model you'll avoid the hassles generally associated with carbs since the "i"s are fuel injected, the F4's are not.
Guess the moral is, we all know how anxious you probably are to buy your first bike, but make sure you take the time to shop around and don't just buy the first one that comes along, there's a ton of them out there. Make sure the one you get is the one you want.
For what it's worth I rode an F4 for a few seasons and was pretty happy with it, bought one new in 99'. Only complaint I had was with the nana' seat and single headlight, but those are minor complaints and the bike served me well till we parted ways.
Guess the moral is, we all know how anxious you probably are to buy your first bike, but make sure you take the time to shop around and don't just buy the first one that comes along, there's a ton of them out there. Make sure the one you get is the one you want.
For what it's worth I rode an F4 for a few seasons and was pretty happy with it, bought one new in 99'. Only complaint I had was with the nana' seat and single headlight, but those are minor complaints and the bike served me well till we parted ways.
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Looks like you have had quite a bit of great advice from the guys already ...(thanks guys)
So for me , its just welcome to the CBRF Sam
BTW : Need any help around here just PM me :-)
Some fast find links are below mate ....use them with my compliments ..
How to use all the stuff within the CBRForum
https://cbrforum.com/forum/forum-help-suggestion-center-8/
Official CBRForum Rules
https://cbrforum.com/forum/new-member-area-5/cbr-forum-official-rules-52156/
Need a Workshop manual? Grab one from one of these links :-)
http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~cbr...ice_Manual.pdf
http://blackbears.ru/index_en.php?get=manual
http://www.carlsalter.com/motorcycle-manuals.asp
# NEW TO RIDING THE ROADS ?
READ THESE POSTS!!....They may save your life !
https://cbrforum.com/forum/riding-skills-88/corner-fast-dont-crash-important-update-pg4-body-steer-63523/
NOOBS...are you new to Forums .... ?
Please spend two minutes and watch these vids :-)
How to use Forums...a great for beginners to forums :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIyr5...eature=related
Another very good insight to how to use Forums
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9q2jNjOPdk
So for me , its just welcome to the CBRF Sam

BTW : Need any help around here just PM me :-)
Some fast find links are below mate ....use them with my compliments ..
How to use all the stuff within the CBRForum
https://cbrforum.com/forum/forum-help-suggestion-center-8/
Official CBRForum Rules
https://cbrforum.com/forum/new-member-area-5/cbr-forum-official-rules-52156/
Need a Workshop manual? Grab one from one of these links :-)
http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~cbr...ice_Manual.pdf
http://blackbears.ru/index_en.php?get=manual
http://www.carlsalter.com/motorcycle-manuals.asp
# NEW TO RIDING THE ROADS ?
READ THESE POSTS!!....They may save your life !
https://cbrforum.com/forum/riding-skills-88/corner-fast-dont-crash-important-update-pg4-body-steer-63523/
NOOBS...are you new to Forums .... ?
Please spend two minutes and watch these vids :-)
How to use Forums...a great for beginners to forums :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIyr5...eature=related
Another very good insight to how to use Forums
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9q2jNjOPdk
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