[QUOTE=MrHEX;1227169]as maverick said, its part due to the materiel it cost. and part for the labor involved in it.

Yeah, you probably have about $50 worth of SS or titanium (very few exhausts are full titanium). Carbon fiber for the can? Probably another 15$, made by some Far Eastern $2-a day child-workers in a sweatshop.. Carbon fiber is simple to work with.
A gorgeous weld can be done by any real welder.
If you believe there is $500+ worth of time and materials in a slipon, like they are charging for them....Well, it just amazes me that people DO believe that...I know, we got no choice, that's what they charge...but as stated my question is How do they get that much?

I just had my Jardine slip on apart yesterday, shortening it up a couple of inches for slightly more sound so I can hear it better at speed. 6 pop-rivets, a couple of castings for the ends, a perforated steel inner core you can buy almost anywhere and some packing and a few square inches of SS screen...It took me about an hour to shorten it and put it back together, including taking it off my F4i.
I've also "restored" a 2 Bros. carbon can on a VFR I owned...took it apart, same deal...12 pop rivets and a carbon fiber oval, but this one was all sun-faded outside. A quick sanding and some good clearcoat brought it right back to like new, along with a bit of buffing on the oxidized cast ends...New pop rivets...Saved myself about $700 with a few hours of simple work that anyone can do...
Over priced....motorcycle exhaust...not anything near the labor and materials in one that the vendors and manufacturers are getting from us suckers.....Oh well...
Don Hanson

 

Don't forget they have to make a mold and a jig for each motorcycle they sell exhausts for, and that it takes a lot of man hours to get it to bend right so that it fits up to each factory mount and looks good. Plus there are standards they have to pass and they actually require quite a bit of work. The welds have to be done well or they'll fall apart...there's a lot of costs in making an exhaust. Granted...the price is high yes, you can get full header back exhausts for cars for $1,000 that are full stainless steel. They have WAY more bends and tubing.

 

They are in it to make money, I 100% agree with that. Most optional highend parts on what most people have on a "toy", not a mandatory vehicle, are ridiculously expensive. You think motorcycle exhaust are expensive? Ask the hot rodding community what they have to pay for some of their parts. We are not the only ones.

 

It boils down to this: "You have to pay to play". Simple. They charge it because they can.

 

No, I posted about the cost of the steenkin' $5-$600 slip-on 'can' that everone seems to think is worth paying for....These, from many of the large makers, they are almost universal fit, no bends to make, no jigs to assure fitting particular models of bikes, really. Just a couple of cast ends, an inside tube and a shell with some rivets...

I can see the labor involved in fabricating complete systems for bike...but a simple muffler is NOT costing (to produce) anything more than maybe $50 bucks! I think we're being had....big time! But this was simply an observation....as said in other posts...."they charge that because they can get it" so that is what we all seem to pay.

 

While I agree that the price for an exhaust seems rather high to us, I would think that if it was possible to produce a quality tuned exhaust and sell it for $100 that some company would have done it by now and drove everyone else out of business. There must be more to it financially than what we're seeing.

 

You need to remember, you're also paying for the research and development that goes into each exhaust. Be it a full system, or a slip-on, companies spend big money to make sure it functions properly.

That's why you see taylormade, two brothers, and danmotos for cheaper.

 

Sure, if some company selling the Expensive Cans....at like 5 times what those Danmotos are going for....if they posted dyno sheets showing a significantly large performance gain, then perhaps one could justify the excessive cost for their products....but that ain't the case...It seems like there is little if any evidence to confirm that the really expensive ones make better performance numbers. It looks like they just page around on the Net and go...."Hey, our competition is selling their muffs at $xxx.xx...Let's price ours right there, too" and they are all really overpriced...again for such a cheap and simple construction...
Big performance gains CAN be made with fully customized exhaust systems...but each needs to be fully dyno tuned to every bike and they work in concert with other modifications to the engine....Those systems, they're worth big buck...because there is a lot of expense in making them perform...

Well we aren't going to change the pricing unless Danmoto, et al.... cuts into the sales of all the other guys and they are then forced to reduce their profits and prices.. ...The mind set seems to exist for bikes that "the most expensive is the best" and sometimes it is, but I haven't seen any statistics to back up that there is a huge difference between inexpensive and Gucci mufflers....other than the cool names on them..