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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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I have a 05 cbr1000rr with a clear alternatives resr tail light. I never had front blinkers and thr rears didnt work. Long story short i took it to the dealership,they got everything working and put front markers on for just under 200. When i went to pick it up the guy asked how many times till it turns on? I had no cclue what he was talking about so i go in the back and see them cranking thr bike and it wouldnt turn over. Eventually it did and thr guy says i have a bad starter clutch. Now, i have NEVER had a problem with the bike starting, is this part something they could basically make go bad so i would have to get them to fix it or no?

I live in philadelphia pa. Does anyone knpw a shop around that could do this job for me? The dealer told me 104 for the gear, 66 for thr clutch outer and 92 for the 1 way and 80 to install buy i dont feel comfortable takin it back to them.

Help me out please

Also I did just change the oil the other day, i spoke with a guy who said i could use the vtwin motorcycle oil. He has been on streetbikes for a while and was referred to me by a few people so he seemed like he knows what hes talking about, it was mobile1 20-w50 full synthetic...dunno if that has something to do with it. If so should i completely drain and redo the oil?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 01:51 PM
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I don't know about your 05 but I have an 08 and I was told the stock battery is a bit smaller to save weight and it takes a few seconds before it starts. It hasn't been a problem because I always leave it on a Battery Tender Jr when I'm done riding for the day.

On the oil, 20W-50 sounds a bit heavy. The owner's manual on mine recommends 10W-30 or 10W-40. Thicker oil will take more time to start.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 07:22 PM
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for a year i havent had problems with it starting, so i dunno if its the battery. i just fully charged it and still nothing. Think it could be the oil? Should i try draining and refilling with a different weight?
 
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 12:42 AM
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you used motorcycle oil correct? . . and no its not something they can just do . .i run my own shop and their is nothign worse than when something just happens and the car wont start when you do something as simple as brakes and the customer is right there . .and they are thinking o great hes going to think we did something . .. my advice i wouldnt fuss about it and bring it back to them and give them the courtesy and who knows they might hook ya up a little so you dont feel ripped off . . .i would
 
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 01:28 AM
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I wouldn't take it back to them. This is only a guess, but I would bet during their process of getting your lights working, they had the key on. These bikes have extremely small batteries that you cannot leave the key on without some battery drain. That, along with a bike that has an undersized battery that is probabably near the end of its life cycle, would account for the bike not cranking over fast enough to start. These bikes have to crank over pretty fast before they will start.

The reason I wouldn't bother is because they asked you how many times does it take to start. Its a fuel injected bike, it doesn't take much. Plus, I truly believe they just ran the battery down during their process. Plus, another reason I would not take it to them is they are guessing their is something wrong with your starter clutch. Most dealerships do not pay their mechanics very well, and you end up with a bunch of unqualified people wrenching on your bike. The main reason I work on my own. I can't count how many times I went into dealerships and knew more than the mechanic on staff. I just stopped going to them a long time ago.

I seriously doubt there is anything wrong with your bike other than maybe a weak battery and the possiblity they flooded it when trying to start it with a weak battery. Also, just because the battery shows good voltage, does not mean its ok. Check the date on it. If its the original battery, its probably time to swap it out.

The oil is a bit thick. But if you live in a hot area, its fine. If your in a colder climate, it is probably a little too thick to run. Either way, give your bike a little extra time to warm up before hopping on and going. But it should have no effect on if your bike starts or not. Just make sure its not overfilled. that can make the bike hard to start. But you would have noticed it right away, not after it was at the dealership.

So, I would swap the battery depending on how old it is. Maybe swap out the plugs as they may have fouled them. But I certainly wouldn't go back to them. Any dealership that trys to tell you something is wrong by just guessing, is a dealership you need to walk away from.

One thing though. Does the bikes engine crank over when you try to start it, and just not start? Or nothing happens at all when you hit the start button?
 

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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by justasquid
I wouldn't take it back to them. This is only a guess, but I would bet during their process of getting your lights working, they had the key on. These bikes have extremely small batteries that you cannot leave the key on without some battery drain. That, along with a bike that has an undersized battery that is probabably near the end of its life cycle, would account for the bike not cranking over fast enough to start. These bikes have to crank over pretty fast before they will start.

The reason I wouldn't bother is because they asked you how many times does it take to start. Its a fuel injected bike, it doesn't take much. Plus, I truly believe they just ran the battery down during their process. Plus, another reason I would not take it to them is they are guessing their is something wrong with your starter clutch. Most dealerships do not pay their mechanics very well, and you end up with a bunch of unqualified people wrenching on your bike. The main reason I work on my own. I can't count how many times I went into dealerships and knew more than the mechanic on staff. I just stopped going to them a long time ago.

I seriously doubt there is anything wrong with your bike other than maybe a weak battery and the possiblity they flooded it when trying to start it with a weak battery. Also, just because the battery shows good voltage, does not mean its ok. Check the date on it. If its the original battery, its probably time to swap it out.

The oil is a bit thick. But if you live in a hot area, its fine. If your in a colder climate, it is probably a little too thick to run. Either way, give your bike a little extra time to warm up before hopping on and going. But it should have no effect on if your bike starts or not. Just make sure its not overfilled. that can make the bike hard to start. But you would have noticed it right away, not after it was at the dealership.

So, I would swap the battery depending on how old it is. Maybe swap out the plugs as they may have fouled them. But I certainly wouldn't go back to them. Any dealership that trys to tell you something is wrong by just guessing, is a dealership you need to walk away from.

One thing though. Does the bikes engine crank over when you try to start it, and just not start? Or nothing happens at all when you hit the start button?
i ended up taking it to another place that was recommended to me. They said that the starter clutch is "scorched" whatever that means and it will need to be replaced. I just told them that it wasnt starting right and didnt say anything about the starter clutch or anything so it makes me feel a little better that they arent pulling the wool over my eyes so to speak.

The bike cranks btu just wont turn over. I push started it and it didnt work the first time and as i was backing up to try again i was hitting the started and it sounded like it wanted to turn on, a few button pushes later it turned on but shut right off so i started it again and revved the engine for a minute and it stayed on with no problem after that
 
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