New camchain tensioner
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Me too Steve but the manual says do it anticlockwise...................
Timing was perfect, stripped and reassembled. Camchain and new tensioner, sweet as a nut. Problem was carb related.........not sure why but what the hell it's running now.
Old tensioner had jammed -
Now I have
Death rattle from the primary chain at idle, so I'm just going to ride it until it breaks !!!!!
I'm SICK..................
Engine must come out for a primary, as far as I know.
Timing was perfect, stripped and reassembled. Camchain and new tensioner, sweet as a nut. Problem was carb related.........not sure why but what the hell it's running now.
Old tensioner had jammed -
Now I have
Death rattle from the primary chain at idle, so I'm just going to ride it until it breaks !!!!!
I'm SICK..................
Engine must come out for a primary, as far as I know.
Mine rattles like christ!! up top and down below(if you listen for it that is ) and I just bloody ignore it ..
Once my engine has a bad issue , I will attend to all the little issues , but until then ...just ride the bloody thing ...
As far as the rotation thing goes ....
yup it depends on the engine design usually ... On allot of bikes the tensioners are on the rear of the engine and those need to be wound clockwise (as with most Kawasaki 4's) to pull the slack out of the chain before setting cam timming ...
busy little thread this one ....
morning all ....
Last edited by CBRclassic; Sep 20, 2009 at 01:49 AM.
You have to do it by the book. It is important to use the proper timing marks (you already know this).
Both cams need to read up and the EX cam up front needs to have the EX-- mark inline with the top of the head while the IN cam is up and the IN-- mark is inline with the head. This needs to happen when the later T mark is lined up with the forward SWID index mark while rotating CCW.
BTW, if you drop anything down the hole, you can pull the bottom sump cover off and retrieve it. I know this from experience.
Last edited by TimBucTwo; Sep 19, 2009 at 06:04 PM.
Actually, i had to take it apart and I kept putting it back wrong three times before I got it right.
It can be tricky.
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Yer , I think it is quite common ... and very easy to do ..
I setup my old 1000 Kwaka many years ago one tooth out , but all she did was run like a dog popping and banging ...
I have no experience doing cam settings on the CBR as yet ....wonder if they would even run like that at all though ?? have you ever done it on a CBR ?
I setup my old 1000 Kwaka many years ago one tooth out , but all she did was run like a dog popping and banging ...
I have no experience doing cam settings on the CBR as yet ....wonder if they would even run like that at all though ?? have you ever done it on a CBR ?
Yes, about 30k miles ago. I got the EX cam lined up but when I was putting the IN cam back in I was always 1 tooth out so I went one tooth in the opposite direction on installation and I was dead on in final installation.
I did not remove both cams, just the IN, when replacing the CCT. I even marked the chain and sprockets with red grease pens. That's how I knew I was out. I thought that I had made a mistake and started the bike and the damn thing rattled like a crazy maraca.
I did not remove both cams, just the IN, when replacing the CCT. I even marked the chain and sprockets with red grease pens. That's how I knew I was out. I thought that I had made a mistake and started the bike and the damn thing rattled like a crazy maraca.
Guys, I wish the rattle was new, but the reason for redoing the CCT was because of the new (different rattle)
I've had the timing checked by two different bike mechs yesterday, and the timing is spot on the marks, as TBT mentioned.
When I had the starter damper out recently, I thought the tensioner on the primary was a bit slack, but never having done a tensioner on a primary I wasn't sure just how much pressure there should be.
This I know, the bike is running like a raped rabbit, BUT, the idle is lumpy, and THIS is when you hear the chain, when the bike is cold, or when the idle drops down too far.
I will be checking the balancer shaft this week, but my first job will be to balance the carbs, as this I think could also be making the problem worse.
Thanks to all for the input
I've had the timing checked by two different bike mechs yesterday, and the timing is spot on the marks, as TBT mentioned.
When I had the starter damper out recently, I thought the tensioner on the primary was a bit slack, but never having done a tensioner on a primary I wasn't sure just how much pressure there should be.
This I know, the bike is running like a raped rabbit, BUT, the idle is lumpy, and THIS is when you hear the chain, when the bike is cold, or when the idle drops down too far.
I will be checking the balancer shaft this week, but my first job will be to balance the carbs, as this I think could also be making the problem worse.
Thanks to all for the input
Last edited by Shadow; Sep 20, 2009 at 01:43 AM.
Pulled the exhaust, sump off etc only to find it landed in between the camchain & guide but somehow never jammed up the works.
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I will be checking the balancer shaft this week, but my first job will be to balance the carbs, as this I think could also be making the problem worse.
I've just spoken to a mate of mine who has HUGE experience - he says - you should balance the carbs every time you remove them from the bike. He says the bike is "fighting itself" at low revs, and this will cause the chains to "whip". Above 1400RPM NO noise, he says because there's more vacuum, and the higher revs seem to make the engine "smooth out" and therefore no chain rattle.
I'll be borrowing a carb balancing unit from this same mate, and I'll keep you up dated.
Until it's done, I'll keep the idle up a bit..........................
Thanks again, much appreciated.
I'll be borrowing a carb balancing unit from this same mate, and I'll keep you up dated.
Until it's done, I'll keep the idle up a bit..........................
Thanks again, much appreciated.



