I remember doing this for 2 of my friends. And I blatantly told them, "DO NOT TRY TO KEEP UP WITH ME, I'll just meet you at the stop sign." lol

 

I definitely believe in taking full responsibilty for every action that Imake regardless of the situation. If I wreck, it's on me and no one else. In my opinion, if a new rider is riding out of their limit it is their fault if they wreck because they took a corner too fast. Never ride above your limit. I'm sure that I could probably take some turns faster and lean the bike over more sometimes, but I don't because I know that I'm not ready; and when I am, I will know.

 

I also say that you are responsible for your own riding. I would inform the new riders of the conditions, and establish a meeting point (or points)where you can wait for stragglers and count heads every once in a while. There is no sense in dulling down your fun ride just so the other slower riderscan keep up with you.Also, a good way for you to get faster is to ride with others who are faster than you, so it all comes back to riding within your own limits or your own comfort level. If they feel comfortable trying to keep pace, let them, but also be wary of them taking you out in the event that they do take a spill!

 

A rider who crashes trying to follow a more experienced rider is at fault for not knowing his limits. He should just u-turn his bike home.

An experienced rider leading an inexperienced one is a ****ty friend.

Either way, everyone loses.

 

It is up to the more experienced rider to make sure that his friend understands that he won't be safely able to keep up. If the noob tries and the better rider sees this in his mirrors, he needs to slow down and either tell his buddy again or end the ride.

The noob will hurt himself if he continues to ride beyond his limitsand there is nothing you can do about that, it is all about keeping your conscience clear and being able to sleep at night.

The reason why I say this is that it happened to me, luckily my crash was almost a non-crash, but I got way out of sorts and didn't have the skills to recover. There was only minor scratches and no injuries so it turned out OK. But, my buddies were not thinking that I would be dumb enough to try and keep up, and I really wasn't, but I was riding faster than I normally would have because I was following them and really didn't know where I was going. My fault 100%, but a little explanation of what to expect may have help avoid that spill.

 

+1 I wouldn't ride with someone who was just going to leave me in the dust all day or try to push me too far beyond my limits, how is that any fun? The experienced rider should try to teach the less experienced one something if he can and just enjoy the ride. Save the hardcore stuff for riding with other experienced guys.

 

It's BOTH parties faults. The following rider should stay within their limits and the leading rider should respect the fact that a follower might feel inclined to go beyond their known limits to not look stupid or inexperienced in front of the rider more familiar with the road.

I met up with a member from this forum just last weekend and took him on a very twisty road that I knew well but he had never been on. Couple that with the fact that this dude is a new rider on his first bike (08 Graffiti). As much as I would have loved to scream through those turns, I took it pretty easy. He did fall behind a few times, which just shows that he respected his limits, but it's very easy to understand why somebody might not respect their known limits to show off to their fellow riders.

 

I'd ride behind them for the first trip, and see how they handle the road - If you keep catching up at your normal speed, you'll know what the rider's skill level is. It's more difficult if they're behind, and maybe struggling to keep up.......

 

100% the fault of the rider who crashed. The rider made the decision. They control the motorcycle, they chose the route, the braking, acceleration (when and how much), the lean angle required, turn in point, apex, how they handled the bike as it begins to come into "problems" (usually based on skill level), etc.

It is merely "nice" and courteous for someone to reiterate to a person before you go out riding, should they suspect they may have a problem, that they have those choices to make and are not required to keep up with the person leading. This should, however, be common logic.

 

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