Are voters more entitled to freedom of speech?
#31
RE: Are voters more entitled to freedom of speech?
You have the following rights,
1. To vote
2. To NOT vote
3. To exercise your freedom of speech and express your opinion regardless of whether you choose #1 or 2..
Anyone that feels your opinion is invalid because you chose #2 instead of #1 is infringing upon your rights. Screw 'em.
1. To vote
2. To NOT vote
3. To exercise your freedom of speech and express your opinion regardless of whether you choose #1 or 2..
Anyone that feels your opinion is invalid because you chose #2 instead of #1 is infringing upon your rights. Screw 'em.
#33
RE: Are voters more entitled to freedom of speech?
For me, I feel as if I have to vote. As an African American, we werent always allowed to vote, so its a slap in the face to all those who marched for hours, were threatened, sprayed with water hoses etc...
#35
RE: Are voters more entitled to freedom of speech?
The electoral college was put in place because America is NOT a democracy. We are a republic. As such sometimes the will of the majority is not always what is right. Giving every adult over 18 the right to vote was not very popular ... but it was right. I don't really like the electoral college system but it has good and bad points.
But even if you do not vote for the president ... you can vote for local issues and candidates. They will affect your life far more often than who poses as pres for 4 years.
But even if you do not vote for the president ... you can vote for local issues and candidates. They will affect your life far more often than who poses as pres for 4 years.
#36
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RE: Are voters more entitled to freedom of speech?
ORIGINAL: Shadow1
More often than not, being a voter in an African country can be a perilous business, especially if it becomes known you fancy the opposition ! One look at Zimbabwe will confirm this.
Violence and political 'bullying' are rife - death is also fairly common.
I believe everyone is entitled to an opinion, however ill-informed it may be - what peeves me the most is when people with poor education/knowledge of the issues/candidates vote blindly on the 'ticket' without regard for the consequences.
9 times out of 10, people get the government they deserve.
More often than not, being a voter in an African country can be a perilous business, especially if it becomes known you fancy the opposition ! One look at Zimbabwe will confirm this.
Violence and political 'bullying' are rife - death is also fairly common.
I believe everyone is entitled to an opinion, however ill-informed it may be - what peeves me the most is when people with poor education/knowledge of the issues/candidates vote blindly on the 'ticket' without regard for the consequences.
9 times out of 10, people get the government they deserve.
#37
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RE: Are voters more entitled to freedom of speech?
ORIGINAL: chainstretcher
The electoral college was put in place because America is NOT a democracy. We are a republic. As such sometimes the will of the majority is not always what is right. Giving every adult over 18 the right to vote was not very popular ... but it was right. I don't really like the electoral college system but it has good and bad points.
But even if you do not vote for the president ... you can vote for local issues and candidates. They will affect your life far more often than who poses as pres for 4 years.
The electoral college was put in place because America is NOT a democracy. We are a republic. As such sometimes the will of the majority is not always what is right. Giving every adult over 18 the right to vote was not very popular ... but it was right. I don't really like the electoral college system but it has good and bad points.
But even if you do not vote for the president ... you can vote for local issues and candidates. They will affect your life far more often than who poses as pres for 4 years.
because he is the big and all powerful hall monitor that holds my poor worthless forum life in his hands ....and I know who to suck up too
Seriously though ....
Democracy , Republic , whatever .... elections whether or not all participate in them or not, the out come's have nothing to do with who vote's so much as how much cash , corruption and power the candidates have at there disposal ..
Who governs us is decided by the best campaign , the one that spits enough bull **** at us to swing our minds in that direction , the one which is usually the one funded the best wins.
The individual voter holds no real power these days , except at a local level as Gregg mentioned.
It is all very well to say we have sacrificed many good lives for our freedom ...but really what freedom?? sure we have a type of freedom that some in communist countries and under developed nations do not have .... but we are not free !!!
I do not understand nor believe that anyone that does the old stand by the flag and chants
" we fort and died for our freedom " has a strong grip on the reality of that freedom or today's systems..
This debate is very circular in its nature and can be taken around and around depending on how you choose to focus on it ...but at the end of the day , we live in a very controlled and corrupt and in some cases criminal system that , yes we have sent many to die for ..
I personally have not voted at a federal level for over 20 years ... I do not believe the democratic system that I live in to be sound , logical or honest ....
I vote at a local level, on local issues , knowing that even then, my vote only has a very minor chance of being worth anything ..
#38
RE: Are voters more entitled to freedom of speech?
I like voting, too, makes me feel part of something bigger. But honestly, my course in U.S. history this year is illuminating a great deal about this country. I had always thought we were a republic of patriots wrapped in red, white, and blue flags bent on fulfilling manifest destiny...zomg, uh, not even close. More like deception, paranoia, and murder...from day one. But that's what I get for being raised in a white christian school system. lol
#39
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RE: Are voters more entitled to freedom of speech?
ORIGINAL: SpiritRR
I like voting, too, makes me feel part of something bigger. But honestly, my course in U.S. history this year is illuminating a great deal about this country. I had always thought we were a republic of patriots wrapped in red, white, and blue flags bent on fulfilling manifest destiny...zomg, uh, not even close. More like deception, paranoia, and murder...from day one. But that's what I get for being raised in a white christian school system. lol
I like voting, too, makes me feel part of something bigger. But honestly, my course in U.S. history this year is illuminating a great deal about this country. I had always thought we were a republic of patriots wrapped in red, white, and blue flags bent on fulfilling manifest destiny...zomg, uh, not even close. More like deception, paranoia, and murder...from day one. But that's what I get for being raised in a white christian school system. lol
But that's what I get for being raised in a white christian school system. lol
Yer the reality of most so called democratic or republic systems is not how most actually perceive them ...
#40
RE: Are voters more entitled to freedom of speech?
ORIGINAL: SpiritRR
I like voting, too, makes me feel part of something bigger. But honestly, my course in U.S. history this year is illuminating a great deal about this country. I had always thought we were a republic of patriots wrapped in red, white, and blue flags bent on fulfilling manifest destiny...zomg, uh, not even close. More like deception, paranoia, and murder...from day one. But that's what I get for being raised in a white christian school system. lol
I like voting, too, makes me feel part of something bigger. But honestly, my course in U.S. history this year is illuminating a great deal about this country. I had always thought we were a republic of patriots wrapped in red, white, and blue flags bent on fulfilling manifest destiny...zomg, uh, not even close. More like deception, paranoia, and murder...from day one. But that's what I get for being raised in a white christian school system. lol
I'm all for someone choosing not to vote...just as much as it is your right to do so it's your right not to. I'm more-so against those morons brainwashed from the charismatic young-republicans/democrats in highschool that got militant about either party simply because their more leader-type friends persuaded their minds. It's funny how groups can sway just about anyone...that whole "you're either with us or against us" can really change a lot of apprehensive people...and there's a stockpile of em. In a perfect world it'd be okay to have your opinion and that's that but there's a lot of baggage attached to either side of an argument depending on many things, your family(I'd say it's hard to be a democrat in a predominantly republican household and vice versa, no?), friends, school, church, whatever and that's really unfortunate. Thus is the way our society works so we do what we can, the crazy candidates know just which buttons to push and that's what makes me a little uncomfortable with picking the lesser-of-two-evils that can seemingly play the american audience like a stringed instrument...and they know it. I have a bad feeling a lot of people will simply vote yea or nay for a candidate based on one stupid irrelevant social hot topic like gay-marriage when there are extremely serious (economy anyone?) type matters to be dealt with instead of *****-nilly issues like that which to some people are make-or-break. I think this is where a lot of that rock-the-vote **** comes into play where people feel they HAVE TO vote but don't wanna do the homework so they wing it with a "well they're for abortion so they'll be a horrible president" decision.
At the end of the day, I'll write in my own goddamn name if I have to but I usually vote just because I know a lot of people really don't even get so much as that in this crazy world let alone a glass of water when they're thirsty.