Need two-up braking tips
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08-23-2007, 05:42 AM
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Need two-up braking tips
Luckily my girlfriend loves the bike. She is a good passenger, we have a 1000 miles or so together on it and she doens't hose me up at all. I have been hesitant about practicing emergency stops with her but it is a skill I should have. Now the questions.
Given the extra weight, I expect longer braking distances overall, but will using the rear brake more than usual be a problem given the extra weight and whereit is on the bike or will her extra weight over the rear tire make it safer?
Is the bike more apt to do a stoppie with too much front?
Anyone with any experience to share on this?
Given the extra weight, I expect longer braking distances overall, but will using the rear brake more than usual be a problem given the extra weight and whereit is on the bike or will her extra weight over the rear tire make it safer?
Is the bike more apt to do a stoppie with too much front?
Anyone with any experience to share on this?
#2
08-23-2007, 06:14 AM
RE: Need two-up braking tips
I first read this as I need two breaking up tips, damn lysdexia. Anyway, with that said...
I've put roughly 7,000 miles on my '06 F4i since the end of May, and I'm willing to bet at least 4,500-5,000 of those are with my girlfriend on the back. The rear brake definately has more stopping power with her as a pillion and I find myself using it much more often. She's a good passenger so she knows when I hit the brakes her hands are to be braced against the tank, not wrapped around me. IMO, this helps a lot, and avoids a potentially dangerous shift in weight that will upset the suspension. I've had to do some near maximum braking stops before and I've never had any occurances where the back tire lifted off the ground, nor with it skidding out from under me.
I'm roughly 5'11 185lbs and I'd estimate her at 5'7 135lbs, if that helps.
I've put roughly 7,000 miles on my '06 F4i since the end of May, and I'm willing to bet at least 4,500-5,000 of those are with my girlfriend on the back. The rear brake definately has more stopping power with her as a pillion and I find myself using it much more often. She's a good passenger so she knows when I hit the brakes her hands are to be braced against the tank, not wrapped around me. IMO, this helps a lot, and avoids a potentially dangerous shift in weight that will upset the suspension. I've had to do some near maximum braking stops before and I've never had any occurances where the back tire lifted off the ground, nor with it skidding out from under me.
I'm roughly 5'11 185lbs and I'd estimate her at 5'7 135lbs, if that helps.
#3
08-23-2007, 06:16 AM
RE: Need two-up braking tips
Look, your thinking is all ok on this, but your likely to disappear up your own backside worrying about it to much.
Adjust your suspension at the back & (a bit at the front), for the additional weight of a pillion, allow for extra enertia when stopping, a common cause for "offs" at traffic lights & so on, is because your pillion makes the bike heavier just at that point when you think you have stopped. Take it easy with take off's, be smooth (avoids the clashing of helmets). Wot you have to do is make your pillion comfortable with you as a rider, they relax, which makes it easier for you all round. (Anybody that wanted to do practice emergency stoppies with me on the back would stop me from ever getting on the back again!) You will be ok, just take it easy.
Adjust your suspension at the back & (a bit at the front), for the additional weight of a pillion, allow for extra enertia when stopping, a common cause for "offs" at traffic lights & so on, is because your pillion makes the bike heavier just at that point when you think you have stopped. Take it easy with take off's, be smooth (avoids the clashing of helmets). Wot you have to do is make your pillion comfortable with you as a rider, they relax, which makes it easier for you all round. (Anybody that wanted to do practice emergency stoppies with me on the back would stop me from ever getting on the back again!) You will be ok, just take it easy.
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08-23-2007, 06:18 AM
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