educational/life question
You wouldnt believe how many people have applied for a laborers position that carry BA's.
I have never checked these stats but think about it.There is an estimated 4200 colleges from community to private (not including techs and such)now if each one of them has a graduating class each semester with a average class size of 30. with two semesters each year thats 250,000 each year and that number is probably low (like I said never really checked stats) but in the last ten years that means there are 2 1/2 million BA's out there.
Not so desired anymore with just that on the resume, they wanta degreeplus work experience most of the time. I would suggest that you figure out what career path you want to go with and try getting a lower level position with that company until you work your way up and possibly get your masters and seperate yourself from being an undergrad to grad. IMO...
I have never checked these stats but think about it.There is an estimated 4200 colleges from community to private (not including techs and such)now if each one of them has a graduating class each semester with a average class size of 30. with two semesters each year thats 250,000 each year and that number is probably low (like I said never really checked stats) but in the last ten years that means there are 2 1/2 million BA's out there.
Not so desired anymore with just that on the resume, they wanta degreeplus work experience most of the time. I would suggest that you figure out what career path you want to go with and try getting a lower level position with that company until you work your way up and possibly get your masters and seperate yourself from being an undergrad to grad. IMO...
I never finished college either and have done quite well. But that is the exception these days. I do regret not finishing ... it is difficult to explain to your 16 year old who is doing SQUAT in high school that he needs education to succeed when he sees you do not have a degree 
I've had more jobs than a lot of you guys have had hot dinners. (But I know wot your thinking about when you say you would rather pursue further education) Very few of us ever actually end up doing wot we want to do as far as work goes, even then many often find that it they are dissatisfied anyways. Yeah I know there are exceptions. Doing a Uni course is a bit of a false hood, you enjoy that part of it, probably studying, hanging out with your mates, parties etc & yeah the studying to. I have known people that are professional students, they just keep doing one course after another, our government pays a (not very generous) study allowance, its about the same amount as the dole, but these guys love the social life that goes with being a Uni student. Its away of putting off the inevitable. I have also worked with people that have Uni qualifications up to here, but made sod to bugger all difference to the work they where doing. My advice to you would be to find a career that you could enjoy & includes a way to further education (paid). I can tell you that a Masters degree means nothing if your going for a job that is totally unrelated to the qualifications you have & in some instances you won't get the position because:a) your over qualified or b) No one likes a smart ****.
An MBA is ALWAYS better than a BA. Since jobs are scarce, you need to take this time and invest in yourself. I got my MBA in 1999, it has been helpful, mostly because I have BSs in engineering and the business world needed some specialized training.
There are smart guys that have never been to college and do just fine, but having that extra education makes it easier.
PLUS, chicks dig it.
There are smart guys that have never been to college and do just fine, but having that extra education makes it easier.
PLUS, chicks dig it.
You need 1 of 3 things in this world to be happy when it comes to a career:
1) Education
2) Related Experience
3) Specialized Training
From you're posts earlier I say Education is on your side. Now if you want to start looking into a job getting experience in a field you're like to continue....it couldn't hurt.
1) Education
2) Related Experience
3) Specialized Training
From you're posts earlier I say Education is on your side. Now if you want to start looking into a job getting experience in a field you're like to continue....it couldn't hurt.
I graduated with a liberal arts BA and had no problem finding the miserable 9-5 desk job of my dreams right out of school. There are a lot of other factors aside from your degree that contribute to finding a job; like were you are looking and what school you went to.
I'm sure that I will pursue a graduate degree at some point but my approach is to wait until I am absolutely certain of what I want to study. After I graduated I thought I wanted to go for my Phd right out but after working full time for two years my priories and interests have shifted considerably. I'm glad I didn't jump into a graduate program that I wouldn't have been happy with down the line.
I'm sure that I will pursue a graduate degree at some point but my approach is to wait until I am absolutely certain of what I want to study. After I graduated I thought I wanted to go for my Phd right out but after working full time for two years my priories and interests have shifted considerably. I'm glad I didn't jump into a graduate program that I wouldn't have been happy with down the line.
All your insights are greatly appreciated, thank you. I do have some education on my side and a ton of experience in a field I just assume leave for greener pastures. My only problem is trying to find a new career having no experience with a degree that is some what generalized during these tough times. Oh well...like my mother always said "life will go on".


