I had to wait until I was 24 to get my bike. Then my parents gave me $1000 as a down payment because they didn't want me to have to pay so much monthly.

 

You want an honest answer? If he feels that way then you are screwed........

UNLESS you take the steps to educate him in what YOU are doing, have done, will do, to promote as much safety as you can into riding. Start with a different bike and let him know that it is a better bike to learn on. Not as fast, or whatever. Take the MSF course, then sign up for the advanced course as well. Practice in safe areas such as parking lots or deserted roads if possible.

If you don't take the steps to try and prove that you are a capable and safe rider, he will NEVER change him mind.

My son is 17, and he is one of my best riding buddies, but that is because I trained him. He riders well beyond what anyone would expect a 17 year old to ride and is mature about his riding. I let him ride my CBR on occasion, but the SV 650 is his bike. He also did the last track day with me and did fantastic. If he had the money and wanted to buy his own CBR 600RR, I would probably still tell him to ride the SV a while longer though, just because I KNOW what the bike is capable of.

Education will be your only chance.

 

it's better to ask forgiveness than permission... that's how it always works man. Get the bike, keep it at a friends house and if worse comes to worse and you have to make a decision whether to move out or keep the bike.... make sure you have money saved up cuz apartments are expensive!

 

+1 lol

 

Alot of guys seem to say that just buy it and store it at a friend's house and see what happens. I think this is a terrible idea. Someone said asking for forgiveness is easier than permission, maybe when you are married but with your parents its a totally different story. I know for a fact that if I pulled something like that with my dad he would kick me out, end of story. I don't think its worth it to get kicked out of your house and have your parents pissed off at you to get a bike. Something you have to realize is that your parents aren't out to get you (i know its hard, i'm 19 too). My dad doesn't really have a problem with me riding. However, when I wanted to get an F4i last year, he wouldn't let after he rode one and saw how powerful it was. I ended up getting a Ninja 250 (which I am currently riding) and hopefully I will get in F4i at the end of the season when prices drop. I don't think that any of us can give you the difinitive "right" choice in your situation since nobody knows you or your father. Your best bet might be to tell your dad you will ride an smaller bike for a season or two. What I told my dad was that I would eventually get a bike, regardless of what he said right now. If I did end up getting a bike later one, I would have more money and I would buy the best bike I could get my hands on. Right now, I will get a smaller bike which is much safer and get a bigger bike after I have some experiance. Perhaps the key is to make your dad understand that eventually you will get a bike the only difference is whether you will do it safely or not so safely.

 

You have your whole life, 2 years is nothing. I'd say to focus on your education, if you absolutely must have a sport bike get something slower then a modern 600rr... It's nothing llike those bike's you rode at the MSF.

 

Dude your father knows you best. If doesn't think your ready for a street bike you need to respect his wishes. He isnot saying no just to be a dick, I know at 19 it probably seems that way, but the bottom line is you'll probably kill yourself on it or seriously hurt yourself. My parents told me the same thing. For years I thought they were just being dicks, but because they were my parents and I respected them I waited. I finally joined the military and moved out on my own. It wasn't until then when I started to understand what my parents were talking about. Irealized I was to immature to have hada real streetbike, I know I would've killed myself, you kids don't realize how much power these bike actually have and how quickly one wrong move or desicion can change your life, or end it!Your talking about a 600rr, that is a serious machine, I know you and your buddies are talking about the 1000's out there, and the one you want is only a 600, but it can kill you, and the 600rr is a very powerful machine. My suggestion to you is to wait, wait until your a more experienced driver, wait until your a more mature man, it could possibly save your live. If none of what I have had to say is what you want to hear, sorry you asked for input, butsomeone earlier said its his house his rules. Your the big 19 now, move out! Take some of the money you have for your bike and move out then he can't say anything about you owning a bike. Then you will need to face the real world and you will quickly learn that there is more to life than disagreeing with your father. This is just my .02 and have not intended to offend any one. Good luck with whatever you decide to do, and always remember to wear your gear, be safe, and ALWAYS watch out for everyone else on the road! Ride as if none of them see you, something I always told myself was everyone always has the right of way, even when they are wrong! You will not win if you try to prove your point on a bike!

 

Gotta go by the house rules. I wouldn't dissrespect my pop like that. see if you can meet in the middle, like a ninja 250 or gs 500 or something, take an MSF course, better yet ask him to take one with you also for kicks. If you get the bike and leave it at a friends house he'll find out and be super pissed, or worse, immagine him having to come see you in the hospital if you laid it down really bad, or trying to explain road rash, unless of course, you plan on not wrecking, but we all know how that goes. Be honest to him, listen to his concerns, and see if you two can't work out an agreement. Might not be the RR you want, but it'll still get you on the road, and surely allot cheaper.

 

**** that you only live once my man do what you got to do. i was in the same situation no way in hell i was going to get it from them they said theyd kick me out if i ever got one after they saw me saving up money and working. well guess what on my birthday in may i bought my 05 cbr 600rr (bought it last year 19 now) and brought it home and they just had to deal with it. they just think theyre protecting you and hoping you will listen to them and not buy it for now. all i have to say is ride smart and dont be a ******** and you'll be fine. get what you want while you want it man.

 

i kinda feel you're pain....but not completely, lol. i have ALWAYS wanted a sportbike and my mom has always been there 100% against it. i've heard all the facts, all the deaths in the county......she'd even come home from work telling me about motorcycle wrecks she had seen on her way home. it never swayed my decision. i ended up buying a quad, since a sportbike seemed so distant at the time (20yrs old). that in the end didnt help her negativity towards bikes, lol.......as i began to stunt the quad. she assumed i'd get a bike and do the same foolish things. i signed up for the MSF class, showed her that i was studying.....reading up on things online and trying to learn about it. i then ordered a helmet and gloves and took the MSF class. got home that day and i do believe she was wanting to hear that i had failed. i told her i had passed and w/ a sigh she said "oh thats good". no one in my family was anxious or jumping for joy about me getting a bike. but they understood it was a something i'd wanted for the longest time. so i sold the quad, and im now the proud owner of a '01 minty F4i (im now 22yrs old)! my mom and dad.....and sis still arent exactly in love w/ the bike yet, lol. but they grow used to it. i have even had all of them (sepereate occasions) ride behind me as we are going somewhere. just showing them that im a safe ride and i try to cross my tee's and dot my I's. i've even taken my sis for a ride down the street on it and she is begining to like the bike and they all are slowly feeling at ease. and actually just this past sunday i think i found out why my mom has such a hatred towards bikes. she told me how when she was younger, she went for a ride w/ someone and they dumped her off the back. is it possible that your dad has had some bad experience in the past w/ bikes?

BUT, its you're dads house and his rules. you COULD buy one but know that you may walk out there one day geared up to go for a spin on it and dad has wrapped a gigantic cable lock through every whole imaginable on that bike and you have no key! and as far as people off of this forum helping you w/ advice.......that wont help. you just need to keep reasuring you're dad that you will be safe. granted you cant make everyone around you be safe....but that you'll stay on point and ride w/ some sense.

just keep nagging i guess, lol. good luck and keep us posted.