Harley Davidson request tax dollars
#11
12-08-2010, 12:08 AM
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I don't know **** about the tax $ stuff, being a POME living in Australia, but have never been interested in owning a Harley. The old ones are way cool but, as told to me by an owner (a cop who pulled me up on the CBRF
), you need a support vehicle to go everywhere with you. The VRODS are a nice looking bike IMO and go hard as well as around corners. They're hugely over priced though.
The biggest thing that would put me off ever owning an HD is the thing that makes most (not all!) buy them...the image thing. So many ******* get around wearing all the gear that don't even own a bike of any kind, yet they tough it up. It's got me f#cked.
If I was after a big cube cruiser it's be a Strat or a Vulcan or similar. If I was after a retro looking bike with modern kit, it'd be a Triumph for sure.
I've spoken to people who want to get a bike 'one day' and it's either "I'm going to get a Harley" or "I'm going to get a Ducati". The second one would kill an inexperienced rider who pushed it hard and to the first option I ask them why. The response is usually "Oh' I dunno". Pratts! A lot of them should first consider getting a job to pay for any bike at all!
Sorry lads...I started raving..
), you need a support vehicle to go everywhere with you. The VRODS are a nice looking bike IMO and go hard as well as around corners. They're hugely over priced though.The biggest thing that would put me off ever owning an HD is the thing that makes most (not all!) buy them...the image thing. So many ******* get around wearing all the gear that don't even own a bike of any kind, yet they tough it up. It's got me f#cked.
If I was after a big cube cruiser it's be a Strat or a Vulcan or similar. If I was after a retro looking bike with modern kit, it'd be a Triumph for sure.
I've spoken to people who want to get a bike 'one day' and it's either "I'm going to get a Harley" or "I'm going to get a Ducati". The second one would kill an inexperienced rider who pushed it hard and to the first option I ask them why. The response is usually "Oh' I dunno". Pratts! A lot of them should first consider getting a job to pay for any bike at all!
Sorry lads...I started raving
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#12
12-08-2010, 12:47 AM
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Anyone who can make Harley owners/buyers go and buy them over more modern equivalents has a marketing and sales plan that is clearly genius. I'm not sure what the mystique is about Harleys - maybe the heritage, being all-American and all that. IMO that's all they have going for them, and even that's questionable.
Somebody tell me what other product worldwide would sell with outmoded technology. It's like trying to sell an old 386 computer from the 80's in todays world at 3x the price of an up to date unit...........pfffft
Defies logic for me.
And if someone lent them/gave them tax dollars, they clearly have no intention of using the money for development.
Maybe someone in Govt owns Harley shares....................
Somebody tell me what other product worldwide would sell with outmoded technology. It's like trying to sell an old 386 computer from the 80's in todays world at 3x the price of an up to date unit...........pfffft
Defies logic for me.
And if someone lent them/gave them tax dollars, they clearly have no intention of using the money for development.
Maybe someone in Govt owns Harley shares....................
I understand as Pete mentioned all the history and heritage ...but holly crap !!! compared to modern bikes from Japan ect ... from an engineering and quality point of view Harleys are way over priced crap ... and yer , the marketing genius behind them , the hood winking of near an entire nation of riders to revere them and pay home loan amounts of money for them is beyond any and all reasonable logic ..
Only peeps with attachments to them for reason that Pete and myself mentioned above , history , heritage , or perhaps the hoodlum / ego style image that Harley seem to provide , would ever bother to buy them
having said all that ....WTF would I know ... I buy road bikes for WAY!! different reasons to nearly all Harley riders ....lolol
davethepom"
The biggest thing that would put me off ever owning an HD is the thing that makes most (not all!) buy them...the image thing. So many ******* get around wearing all the gear that don't even own a bike of any kind, yet they tough it up. It's got me f#cked.
The biggest thing that would put me off ever owning an HD is the thing that makes most (not all!) buy them...the image thing. So many ******* get around wearing all the gear that don't even own a bike of any kind, yet they tough it up. It's got me f#cked.
Chits me to bloody tears to see groups of those bloody noisy rattling chit heaps rumbling as they call it down the road , piloted by what look like a bunch a throw backs from a bad 1960 movie ... !!!
I seriously laugh when 30 of them cruise past our farm here ..... they look dam stupid , doing 50mph tops !!! lolol
In summary ...let the company stand on its own feet or do the world a favor and wind the dam thing up , close them down and save a chit load of people allot a money by making the mistake of buying a new one in the first place ...!!!
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#13
12-08-2010, 02:42 AM
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I was picking TYB up from a mate's place last Sunday and got seriously held up by two HDs driving the wife's Forester. It's a bendy, country road with a few short straights. They were dawdling (sorry...cruising) but riding too close together to split them into two moving road blocks. On the CBR I'd have barely noticed them but I took a deep breath, turned the CD up and just chilled behind them. It was quite interesting really. One hit a pothole mid corner and the whole thing twitched and both were barely leaning at all.
I don't critisize another rider for their choice of machine but would just like them to either ride fast enough to not get in the way or ride far enough apart to allow other road users to overtake them one at a time.
BTW, they looked pretty funny from the back with their knees sticking out sooo far...maybe that's why they were going so f'n slow...Wind resistance
) but riding too close together to split them into two moving road blocks. On the CBR I'd have barely noticed them but I took a deep breath, turned the CD up and just chilled behind them. It was quite interesting really. One hit a pothole mid corner and the whole thing twitched and both were barely leaning at all.I don't critisize another rider for their choice of machine but would just like them to either ride fast enough to not get in the way or ride far enough apart to allow other road users to overtake them one at a time.
BTW, they looked pretty funny from the back with their knees sticking out sooo far...maybe that's why they were going so f'n slow...Wind resistance
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12-08-2010, 12:55 PM
The outlaws ride HD's because that's what was around when they were getting established. If Goldwings were around and plentiful in 1948 the outlaw bikers would be riding them around instead.
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it vibrated enough I can see why.
#19
12-08-2010, 04:03 PM
Well simply put I see the Harleys as the peoples bike of the USA
kinda like the Volkswagon was to zee Germans when it came out.
The VROD shoulda been called the VWROD .......
A Beetle and a Harley kinda have to same "ring" to it for me in fact
almost sound the same too. But the Beetle is waay cooler and
handles much better imo.
yuk yuk yuk .....LOL
kinda like the Volkswagon was to zee Germans when it came out.
The VROD shoulda been called the VWROD
.......A Beetle and a Harley kinda have to same "ring" to it for me in fact
almost sound the same too
. But the Beetle is waay cooler andhandles much better imo.
yuk yuk yuk .....LOL
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#20
12-08-2010, 04:52 PM
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So I guess my point, and ya, I gots one, or two, is that it's better on two wheels than 4. And most Hardley Abletorun riders are douche bags ...