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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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like it says. i crashed 3 weeks ago and just got it back from the insurance company (salvaged) and the key was on with a dead battery. the key was on since i crashed. fully charged the battery and tried to start it but wont fire. if i hit it with starting fluid it starts and runs perfect. warms up and everthing fine. if i shut it off it wont restart?

pulled out plugs and cleaned. put fresh gas in it. checked all fuses and wires. pump turns on fine.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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isnt there some start of 'cold start' thing on the F4i's? Check around the throttle bodies and see if you can find anything unplugged or crushed, sensors and wires.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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sorry i forgot to mention that it is a 2000 929rr. all the wires and plugs look great.???????????
 
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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i would start by checking you fuel lines to make sure one didnt get ripped off in the crash, or kinked or something.. then check your injectors with a stethescope or something to see if they are firing... sounds like a small fuel issue to me, especially since your pump is priming, but still no start without starter fluid. after that check that tip over sensor thing, i dont know much about it, but possible... is your bike throwing a MIL code?
 
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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no mil codes. checked all the lines and they look good. the tip sensor is good. i move the sensor and the pump wont prime. then put it back and primes fine.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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since i have another 00 929 i swapped out tanks and nothing still. works with starting fluid.
this is frustrating.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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im thinking the injectors arent firing when you hit the starter button.

Looking at an F4i setup, there is an Engine Stop Relay right between the back of the headlights. It's separate from the tilt switch. I'm wondering if that would have anything to do with it.


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I'm acquiring a 929RR manual right now, to get a better idea.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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the engine stop relay is right next to the tilt sensor. Mightwanna see if that has anything to do with it.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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the engine stop relay is right next to the tilt sensor. Mightwanna see if that has anything to do with it.
swapped it out with my other 929 and nothing. checked the fuel press reg and seems ok. swappedtanks with other 929 and nothing. checked grounds and they looked good.

started it with starting fluid and let it warm up all the way and could get it to restart if I bumped the starter button. holding it down it seemed to not start. once it got cold it wouldnt start.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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it might be a chore, but looking at some wiring diagrams, try switching the starter relay, the one with the 30 amp fuse in it. Like I said before, it seems like its not getting fuel when you hit that starter button. The only part of the 'system' that starting an power for fuel are close are in that relay box. Maybe the drop knocked something around inside and when the relay is closing its loosing power to the ECM to drive the injectors.
 
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