jerky shifting
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jerky shifting
near new 06 F4i 4k mi - shifts great freshly lubed /cleaned chain but it runs like dog**** otherwise. within two days it is just jerky and at first i thought it was the suspension but ive since made some adjustments to prevent all the dive and stuff but now im realizeing it is prolly chain related. the chain seems to engage tension and disengage with tension from the axle every time i accel or decel. I don't knowif this means too loose or too tight. (I weight about 290....so I wondered if it would loosen up a little with time....but it really hasn't)
Any suggestions or feedback on what to do to smooth it out? I have a good baseline for what it's supposed to feel like with an old f3, nighthawk, and a GS 500.
Any suggestions or feedback on what to do to smooth it out? I have a good baseline for what it's supposed to feel like with an old f3, nighthawk, and a GS 500.
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RE: jerky shifting
What i'm talking about is pretty subtle, so take the noobiness into consideration. When decelerating, throttle off, biketorqueseems to disengage, but not smoothly. It jerks into decelerating. Then, when acceleratingas normal. when i throttle it, the engine torque seems to go up but not smoothly, it jerks into acceleration. It seems to be either on or off whereas many bikes ive ridden before smoothly torque into accel/decel. It is much smoother after a fresh lube on teh chain, but it goes away after a few days. Overall there feels like too much resistance on the chain, but this is a gut level guess.
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RE: jerky shifting
The chain does tighten slightly when you sit on it. I'm a big guy myself at about 220 so I know my bike squats quite a bit when I sit on it and when I get off it sighs sarcastically but I pay it no mind. If you are 290 I would have someone look at the chain when you are sitting on it to see how tight it is. You should probably be on a bigger bike.
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RE: jerky shifting
Always check your freeplay with someone sitting on the bike, compresses the suspension.
Jap gearboxes can sometimes take a while to free up. Even the way you change gears, clutch & chain adjustment & the type (and age) of your oil, can all have an effect.
What the bloody hell is Beef Jerky? Is it anything like those dried dog turd looking things they sell in the servo's? Give me a decent meat pie with tomato sauce any day (Dogs eye, & dead horse)
Jap gearboxes can sometimes take a while to free up. Even the way you change gears, clutch & chain adjustment & the type (and age) of your oil, can all have an effect.
What the bloody hell is Beef Jerky? Is it anything like those dried dog turd looking things they sell in the servo's? Give me a decent meat pie with tomato sauce any day (Dogs eye, & dead horse)
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RE: jerky shifting
I appreciate the insight but "should be on a bigger bike" doesn't really help me solve my problem. 1. I specifically want a 600 because I don't want something faster. 2. The bike shifts smoothly when FRESHLY lubed. 3. Dudes with a chick on the back hit 300 lb loads all day long and the bike doesnt jerk around. 4. the bike's manual states a max load of 380 or something. It is a reasonable expectation to have a nearly new honda that doesnt jerk around town.
The carb vs. injectors thing is something worth considering. I think my conclusion is that I need to adjust the chain before troubleshooting any further.
The carb vs. injectors thing is something worth considering. I think my conclusion is that I need to adjust the chain before troubleshooting any further.
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