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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 02:09 AM
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Hi , have you got a PC fitted
 
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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CaBaRet
Hi , have you got a PC fitted
yes mate, PC111 with button clutchless upshift. Was thinking of disconnecting it and see what happens. It had been set 2 bars towards rich and I dropped it to midway. The misfire has become more of a 'violent lurch', if you get me? I'll back off throttle hold it steady and it's fine. Typical Irish weather, now that I'm off for 4 days, we have a storm scheduled on the forecast so prob won't get any good testing time. I work 12hr night shifts atm and she's only getting X2 10mile journeys per day, I think I need to suit up take it on a long run thrashing it and see how constant the misfire is over a longer distance in case it's a dampness that might disapate over the longer journey
 
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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dec111
yes mate, PC111 with button clutchless upshift. Was thinking of disconnecting it and see what happens. It had been set 2 bars towards rich and I dropped it to midway. The misfire has become more of a 'violent lurch', if you get me? I'll back off throttle hold it steady and it's fine. Typical Irish weather, now that I'm off for 4 days, we have a storm scheduled on the forecast so prob won't get any good testing time. I work 12hr night shifts atm and she's only getting X2 10mile journeys per day, I think I need to suit up take it on a long run thrashing it and see how constant the misfire is over a longer distance in case it's a dampness that might disapate over the longer journey
Might be worth disconnecting PC and give it a go,could be down to mapping you never know, as regards the weather, yeh I'm on the west coast here in Lancashire , waiting for Barbara as well.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by CaBaRet
Might be worth disconnecting PC and give it a go,could be down to mapping you never know, as regards the weather, yeh I'm on the west coast here in Lancashire , waiting for Barbar as well.
Yeah gona try disconnecting it. Bprepared mate, it started here as I left work at 630 am, was getting blown all over the motorway like a ragdoll! I have famliy over your direction, in Preston
 
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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dec111
Two dry runs and it's still doing it, so doubt it's wet related. this bike is really getting on my nerves now.

Any way of testing coils with multi-meter? It all points in that direction, doesn't happen until bike is well heated up, then it splutters like it's running out of petrol
Well since factory procedure calls for a peak voltage reading, you are going to either need a DMM that reads at least RMS/TRMS or specifically peak voltage. Some have a min/max reading that will get you close I believe. or you can use RMS to calculate from there the peak voltage. Unfortunately its not a real common feature on most DMM's. I heard you could maybe cross reference the resistance to the 4 packs to see if you have a difference in one but Honda specifically did away with that sometime back I believe. Probably a ploy to get you to buy their adapter, who knows.

Just a thought as well, as grease/grime heats up it tends to become more conductive (starts to liquefy sort of) and could be grounding somewhere a bad connection/wire. Maybe the water enhanced the issue that was already there making more frequent.
 

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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PossibleOne
Well since factory procedure calls for a peak voltage reading, you are going to either need a DMM that reads at least RMS/TRMS or specifically peak voltage. Some have a min/max reading that will get you close I believe. or you can use RMS to calculate from there the peak voltage. Unfortunately its not a real common feature on most DMM's. I heard you could maybe cross reference the resistance to the 4 packs to see if you have a difference in one but Honda specifically did away with that sometime back I believe. Probably a ploy to get you to buy their adapter, who knows.

Just a thought as well, as grease/grime heats up it tends to become more conductive (starts to liquefy sort of) and could be grounding somewhere a bad connection/wire. Maybe the water enhanced the issue that was already there making more frequent.
I'm thinking of starting off with that yellow ground connector behind the clocks, I see lots of bad reports on it across forums. Hate the thought of taking tank and airbox off and pulling plugs, such a PITA WITH 954's, they're a pig to work on! Also wondering on my HIDs, had all three bulbs running them but the wiring kept arcing despite being really thickly insulated, bent down to hear where the crackling was coming from at one stage, and got my friggin ear fried, those things kick out big electricity!!

I have one running the dip now, and heard a crackle the other day when I started her with the lights on, hopefully get a dry day and run her without the lights on, that'll tell me if that's a prob fairly quickly
 

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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 05:59 AM
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Also, I'm really considering re-wiring, surely if I just do it tracing and replacing one wire at a time, it'll be time consuming but not overly complicated?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 07:35 AM
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Hi Dec, was the HID's fitted with the proper ballast, and wired into the harness
 
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by CaBaRet
Hi Dec, was the HID's fitted with the proper ballast, and wired into the harness
Yeah, all done as per proper instructions.

The reason I have it on is I have to travel a very busy and dangerous stretch of motorway to work, (M50 around Dublin) so the extra bright lighting is required, it's made drivers jerk back into their lane whereas I really don't think they'd have noticed me on standard bulbs.

It's a slim ballast within the right side fairing, only weak spot is prob my joining to lighting wiring using insulating tape, semi exposed to elements, I know I really should use shrink wrapping, just have no time due to work.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 09:25 AM
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Yeh ,know what you mean, they can be really bright, stops the excuse SMIDSY
 
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