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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 03:00 PM
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I have an 02 954rr and it won't start for whatever reason. I was hit by a jackwagon in a Chrysler sebring two months ago and my bike did a cartwheel or two. I had the bike towed home and it started up no problem so i put it in the garage and started it a few times here and there until one day it wouldn't start? I checked all the fuses under the seat they all test good. It turns over but wont fire. I drained the old gas and put in new and i can smell gas if i crank it over for a few try's. I've replaced all the broken body panels and all that. My instrument cluster is digital and the miles are not reading, Can my instrument panel cause my bike to not start? can i by pass it?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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If your bike actually did a few cartwheels, its probably got some frame damage and may not be worth fixing. I would strongly suggest gettting the frame checked before putting too much money into the bike.

Aside from that, what have you done to the bike since you brought it home? What all have you removed from it or replaced?

Even though you smell gas, can you hear the pump come on? If you don't hear the pump when you turn on the key, you could have a bad bank angle sensor. Its located behind the headlight and since you replaced some fairings, its possible you may not have hooked it back up. If its not hooked up, the bike won't start. Or perhaps it was damaged. There is a pedulum suspended in oil. If the oil leaked out, it could fail. You can bypass it by connecting the two out wires together of the 3 wire plug. I would only suggest doing this as a test, not a solution. If its bad, replace it for saftey reasons.

As for the gauge cluster. Yes, on certain models the guage cluster has to be hooked up and in working order for the bike to start. It acts as the interface between the bikes electronics and the ECU. I'm not sure if its critical on that bike, but there are some that it is.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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The bike stopped starting before i took it apart, i was hoping to find a clear reason for it not starting once i puled it apart but no luck. The sensor your talking about is intact and looked to be untouched but it could be bad? I just realized awhile back before the crash i did pull the instrument panel and it wouldn't start but once i plugged it in it would start so i need to know if i can bypass the instrument panel to start the bike.

The frame is good, swing arm is good, forks are good rims are good. The subframe was bent but not cracked, the upper stay brackets were broke and bent, left foot control bracket was broke, upper fairing was trash, windscreen trash. Amazingly enough the headlight was perfect.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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I do hear the fuel pump come on when i hit the key to the on position, I took the sub frame off and the upper fairing assembly but like i had mentioned before the bike quick firing before i did the tear down. The sensor your talking about is above the headlight behind the instrument panel?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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We have a 954 section here, plenty of us 954 experts. This section is general tech, not bike specific. Im an a$$hole so I refuse to give any help in this section when its bike specific. When you want good and knowledgeable help come on over to our section....the 954 section.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 12:11 AM
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Im an a$$hole so I refuse to give any help in this section when its bike specific. When you want good and knowledgeable help come on over to our section....the 954 section.
Wouldn't nearly all questions here be bike specific? I mean all questions are related to a certain bike aren't they? Besides, most answers to problems with a certain model can also be used on other models. I would imagine what ever is wrong with his 954, could be wrong with someone elses F4i... but if we only go to our segregated sections, the knowledge doesn't get passed on. The general tech section is a great place to share knowledge among everyone, regardless of what model they ride.

The sensor your talking about is above the headlight behind the instrument panel?
yes, that is the one. If you hear the fuel pump, the bank angle sensor is not the problem. If the bank angle sensor wasn't working, the fuel pump would not prime. Have you checked your killswitch? the bike will still crank over with a bad killswitch. Are you getting spark?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by justasquid
Wouldn't nearly all questions here be bike specific? I mean all questions are related to a certain bike aren't they? Besides, most answers to problems with a certain model can also be used on other models. I would imagine what ever is wrong with his 954, could be wrong with someone elses F4i... but if we only go to our segregated sections, the knowledge doesn't get passed on. The general tech section is a great place to share knowledge among everyone, regardless of what model they ride.



yes, that is the one. If you hear the fuel pump, the bank angle sensor is not the problem. If the bank angle sensor wasn't working, the fuel pump would not prime. Have you checked your killswitch? the bike will still crank over with a bad killswitch. Are you getting spark?
this is usually the case, it was on my cbr 1000 -_-; we put all new fairings up, and on the 1000rr the round part should be down to the ground, and arrow pointing down, it looks like it should be mounted up so it was a easy mistake.... nearly pulled my hair outta my head for over a month cause of this..... had to toggle the fuel cut off switch a few times but it worked and never failed since
 
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 05:41 PM
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Thanks for all the input, I'm not sure what the problem was? I found the clutch switch had a bad connection and i fixed that but i had bypassed it. I think the ECM just needed to cycle all the info a few times. I filled it up with new gas and connected everything it cranked over and sounded like it wanted to start so i gave it a couple twists of the throttle and it fired. I've been riding it for three days now.
 
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