I Messed Up
#11
id perfer if the state stayed out of my business, i always wear a helmet, but i feel like the state telling us what we should do for our safety is beyond their function
and yeah did you have insurance or registration? im not sure of the rules in other states though...
#12
I have my temporary endorsement, so I can probably slither my way out of that bullsh!t, and i have the title to the bike which should get me out of improper reg. I cant argue with the helmet thing, so hopefully it's a nasty fine and i can make this all go away.
#13
#16
You're screwed. The improper plate is gonna stick, no way around that. You'd have been better off with NO plate on it. THEN you could argue the fact that you just got it, but you cannot take plates from one vehicle (even if its your own) and put them on another vehicle (even if its your own too). The no ops tic might get dismissed but, when you have your temp permit, aren't you supposed to ride with another rider that has their license. (not two up) The helmet deal, well she didn't ticket you for operating without a helmet, you were ticketed for no eye protection, in which case is not necessary unless going faster than 25 mph. (thats all according to Michigan state laws, Ohio's might be different) good luck.
#17
Man sorry to hear about the mess.
In regards to the post above, actually in Ohio riding with a helmet is only required if you do not have an endorsement. Also while on temps, it's not legal to ride with someone on the back of the motorcycle. If you have an endorsement, either eye protection or a helmet are legal.... basically a helmet is not mandatory but eye protection is.
Just keep you cool and let it ride in court. Hope it goes well for you
In regards to the post above, actually in Ohio riding with a helmet is only required if you do not have an endorsement. Also while on temps, it's not legal to ride with someone on the back of the motorcycle. If you have an endorsement, either eye protection or a helmet are legal.... basically a helmet is not mandatory but eye protection is.
Just keep you cool and let it ride in court. Hope it goes well for you
#18
You're screwed. The improper plate is gonna stick, no way around that. You'd have been better off with NO plate on it. THEN you could argue the fact that you just got it, but you cannot take plates from one vehicle (even if its your own) and put them on another vehicle (even if its your own too). The no ops tic might get dismissed but, when you have your temp permit, aren't you supposed to ride with another rider that has their license. (not two up) The helmet deal, well she didn't ticket you for operating without a helmet, you were ticketed for no eye protection, in which case is not necessary unless going faster than 25 mph. (thats all according to Michigan state laws, Ohio's might be different) good luck.
#19
That's another thing I didn't think of. In WI, if you have a temp motorcycle license, you're required to wear a helmet. (And since the topic was brought up, I think the whole country should have helmet laws, but that's another thread.) You don't need to be with anyone else unless it's night time.
Hopefully your judge is having a good day, haha.
Hopefully your judge is having a good day, haha.
#20
Pretty much. Only option here is to
Go in looking like a scrub or acting like a squid and the judge may go in chambers to find a bigger book to throw at you. You are so far in the wrong here and only a tiny bit of research on the judge's part will open you up to a world of pain. For example, in most states violating the restrictions of a temp license can mean the revocation of the temp license and the inability to reapply for some time (usually a year). Or a simple glance at the license plate noted on the ticket and a glance at the registration will reveal the fictitious plates.
Clean, contrite and studious (hardworking college student) image may likely have the judge simply glance at your documents to be sure your name is on them and toss it all out. Look or act even remotely like a squid (or an adrenaline junky college kid) and the judge will likely inspect everything to make sure the "t"s are crossed and the "i"s dotted.
And yours aren't
- Dress in a nice suit
- Get a haircut if it's not tight and smart
- Bring every piece of documentation you have
- Meekly explain that you had to move your bike between classes and left everything in the classroom
- Be prepared to take anything the judge hands you and thank him / her
Go in looking like a scrub or acting like a squid and the judge may go in chambers to find a bigger book to throw at you. You are so far in the wrong here and only a tiny bit of research on the judge's part will open you up to a world of pain. For example, in most states violating the restrictions of a temp license can mean the revocation of the temp license and the inability to reapply for some time (usually a year). Or a simple glance at the license plate noted on the ticket and a glance at the registration will reveal the fictitious plates.
Clean, contrite and studious (hardworking college student) image may likely have the judge simply glance at your documents to be sure your name is on them and toss it all out. Look or act even remotely like a squid (or an adrenaline junky college kid) and the judge will likely inspect everything to make sure the "t"s are crossed and the "i"s dotted.
And yours aren't