power commander for 929
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RE: power commander for 929
I'm a bit confused about the PC and map set up. My 929 has a full M4 exhaust. I see that the power commander web site has a map for just about every exhaust set up including a 929 with the full m4. If I buy a PC do I need to purchase that map seperate or does it come with it??? Will the bike run well by just getting that particular map for it???
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RE: power commander for 929
the power commander maps will make the bike run at about 85-90% optimization for your particular setup. To get 95%+ optimization, you would have to remove the PAIR valve (emissions junk...) as to not throw off the A/F ratio on a dyno, and get the bike professionally tuned.
Redrr, I'm assuming it is a new bike (to you), are you sure the previous owner didn't put a PC in it? it would run a bit lean with the stock settings and a full exhaust.
Joe200803 - Sorry to tell you mate, but it is nowhere near 12-15 bhp when adding a PC3. Maybe 2hp if you are lucky. The main point is to clean up the power and fuel curve of the bike, same as jetting a carbuerated bike. running lean in a bike can do major damage, and higher flowing exhausts and air filters increase the air # in the air-fuel ratio making the bike possibly run dangerously lean.
I have changed the mapping on my 929 to lower the fuel consumption between 4,00-5,500 rpm allowing for better fuel economy when commuting on the highway. You can also change the amount of fuel at different throttle positions... for example, if I want maximum fuel flow at 5% throttle (if that mirrors my riding style) I can set up the PC to do that for me. It is quite interesting to change a map, or alter the fueling and take the bike out for a run. Having it surge at 5000 rpm at +10 fuel at 5% throttle was an interesting experiment for me... Not one I care to try again mind you, but interesting none the less.
Redrr, I'm assuming it is a new bike (to you), are you sure the previous owner didn't put a PC in it? it would run a bit lean with the stock settings and a full exhaust.
Joe200803 - Sorry to tell you mate, but it is nowhere near 12-15 bhp when adding a PC3. Maybe 2hp if you are lucky. The main point is to clean up the power and fuel curve of the bike, same as jetting a carbuerated bike. running lean in a bike can do major damage, and higher flowing exhausts and air filters increase the air # in the air-fuel ratio making the bike possibly run dangerously lean.
I have changed the mapping on my 929 to lower the fuel consumption between 4,00-5,500 rpm allowing for better fuel economy when commuting on the highway. You can also change the amount of fuel at different throttle positions... for example, if I want maximum fuel flow at 5% throttle (if that mirrors my riding style) I can set up the PC to do that for me. It is quite interesting to change a map, or alter the fueling and take the bike out for a run. Having it surge at 5000 rpm at +10 fuel at 5% throttle was an interesting experiment for me... Not one I care to try again mind you, but interesting none the less.
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RE: power commander for 929
ORIGINAL: redrr
I'm a bit confused about the PC and map set up. My 929 has a full M4 exhaust. I see that the power commander web site has a map for just about every exhaust set up including a 929 with the full m4. If I buy a PC do I need to purchase that map seperate or does it come with it??? Will the bike run well by just getting that particular map for it???
I'm a bit confused about the PC and map set up. My 929 has a full M4 exhaust. I see that the power commander web site has a map for just about every exhaust set up including a 929 with the full m4. If I buy a PC do I need to purchase that map seperate or does it come with it??? Will the bike run well by just getting that particular map for it???
as for everyone else's questions: read the above reply by matt365. he got it right. the pc3 DOES NOT mean massive horsepower gains. most stock fi systems (including the 929) have a decent sized dip in the midrange and are programmed a little lean across the board to help with passing emissions. the pc3 smoothes this dip and increases the fuel overall to help the engine run the way that it was meant to. another problem/complaint with the 929 is the abrupt off-idle surge when applying the throttle. the pc3 helps this and makes the power delivery much more managable. the bike (with the pc3) with be easier to ride, but will perform better.
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