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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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Ok so I had some electrical problems, I thought it was my charging system well i went and bought brand new stator, RR, and starter.
Now, still I charge the battery and the bike won't start without using a jump start. If the jump box is not hooked up, the oil, kick stand and neutral lights are dim, if you get the bike running it will idle fine but when you try to open it up it starts bugging, after a ride the lights are still dim,
Who is taking all my power away? Any help will be greatly appreciated

Thank you, Nikolay
 
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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Update:
Even with the jump box it wont start right away need to give it time, also RR gets really hot right away?
 
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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Sounds like u got something shorting/grounding out somewhere along the way. Need to get a test light and start checking all ur wires.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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Check all the plugs on the wire harness for something not fully seated or a connector that's melting. Also make sure the fuses are all the right sizes. Beyond that, pull out the voltmeter and start check resistance along the major pathways.

There's prolly some physical sign of what's going on in the wiring.

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That's the connector into the r/r. Given that the r/r's pins don't show any carbon scoring, I'm guessing the r/r was replaced in the past.

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This is the starter relay's connector. This prolly happened when the r/r went out.

I knew my bike was shorting out cause there were times when I'd go to start and get nothing. Just lights dimming when I hit the starter. Figured it had to be something before the starter and found the relay like that. Couple thwacks with my finger and she'd crank up. Got a "new" harness in now that eliminates all those connectors.

Best way to check your connectors is to assume every single one of them is fecked up. So go to Pepboys. They sell eletrical contact cleaner and dielectric grease in spray cans. Undo every connector one at a time, hit it with the cleaner and use the dielectric grease in the connector. Then seat it back. You'll find any damaged connectors that way and eliminate them as a problem source for future purposes.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 08:13 PM
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well i went out for an hour or two, just got back, left the battery on charge, it cranked and started right away, took it for a spin, everything is running perfect. IDK what to say it is a mystery to me right now, however i'll go buy the cleaner and the grease and do as you said.

Thanks guys!
 
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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Damn Kuro... I had the exact same look to my R/R plug when I got my bike! Same plug, same crispy BBQ'd look... It also happens that my R/R was shot when I got it. I've come to the conclusion at this point that the PO must have tried jumping the bike from a running car and, at 14k miles the weak R/R must have just given out with all the extra juice.

@OP: I'd do a full charging system test, sounds like a potentially bad battery but before you sink even more money replacing good parts do all the appropriate tests. Also a potential short/bad connection/loose ground somewhere. If you don't find anything in the charging system I'd give the harness a good run-through to look for trouble spots.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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Grats on getting her to work. Guess I should have refreshed the page before posting lol. Anyhoo, I'd still give it a run-through and do some tests. If it was happening before, you can bet the same problem will probably show up again. Nothing like it showing up and stranding you on the side of the highway...
 
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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problem with jumping a motorcycle battery off of a car system is that all the extra voltage will distort the lead plates and diminish the capacity of the battery. once this happens , the battery will never be the same. as others above gave good advise, under a load , the battery should not drop below 10 volts(while tryin to start it ). connect tester and spin starter ,check, or have someone help by holding test leads on batt.. good luck brother...
 
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:54 AM
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It's only a problem if the car is running. It is perfectly safe and normal to jump a motorcycle from a car battery, JUST DON'T DO IT WHILE THE CAR IS RUNNING OR YOU'LL FRY SOMETHING!!! (probably the R/R or battery)
 
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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I usually use a jump box to start it, but even this morning when i got back from work the bike started with no problem. My RR plug looked the same when I bought the bike, so I changed the plug and the RR. The battery is bran new too. drops about 2 volts when ignition is turned on. The only thing i can think of is when i left my battery to charge last night the charger was on manual mode, before i always used auto deep cycle, so maybe that just didn't charge the battery good enough.
 
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