Got my first bike.
#11
I got the bike to run for a piece today. I went and bought a simple push button ignition switch to bypass the ignition solenoid, poured a little gas in the carbs, full choke, and hit the button... Brrrrmmmm Brrrrmmmm haha. I'll get some pictures of how its done. It's only temporary and basically didn't want to buy a solenoid till I was sure it was bad and now I know it is. I found something else out too... The fuel pump the previous owner had on it worked but leaks like crazy and also the petcock on the tank is leaky. Anyone have suggestions or a link to a how-to on converting to gravity feed?
#12
I got the bike to run for a piece today. I went and bought a simple push button ignition switch to bypass the ignition solenoid, poured a little gas in the carbs, full choke, and hit the button... Brrrrmmmm Brrrrmmmm haha. I'll get some pictures of how its done. It's only temporary and basically didn't want to buy a solenoid till I was sure it was bad and now I know it is. I found something else out too... The fuel pump the previous owner had on it worked but leaks like crazy and also the petcock on the tank is leaky. Anyone have suggestions or a link to a how-to on converting to gravity feed?
were is the petcock leaking from? the fuel outlet or the tank? if its the tank get a new seal from honda and tighten it right up, mine leaks unless extra tight, if its at the fuel outlet then its an o-ring inside it i believe also get one from honda and replace although mine leaks out of the outlet has done for years never bothered me just means i have to clamp the fuel line when removing the tank
#13
Thanks for all the suggestions! bump starting atm is out of the question for the time being. I have nothing to hold the gas tank or seat on, bolts are gone. To answer a few more questions, the solenoid is not getting warm but the pair solenoid valve is, thats the thing with tubes from air box running to it right? It has oil residue inside but nothing is pouring out. I checked the oil level in the bike and its topped off and surprisingly clean. I'm so use to working on cars and understanding what goes where and this bike is throwing me for a loop, doesn't help that it all came like this. Had I tore it down I'd know a little more but everyone here is amazing. By far the best forum I've been a member of in a while.
Not the best pic but I think you can see what I'm about to ask about, what is this? Its on the bottom left side of the engine above the headers.
Not the best pic but I think you can see what I'm about to ask about, what is this? Its on the bottom left side of the engine above the headers.
yess the PAIR valve has two parts just under the headers a big ugly box then attaches to the air box, pull it off and plug the hole in the air box and make some metal plates for the outlets on the head or buy an air box and head off a NON pair valve model such as the UK model
#15
Has anyone tried the universal fuel pumps from auto zone? Picked one up gonna try it when get home.
EDIT: So the pump I picked up is a Mr. Gasket universal import 4-6 cylinder carburated engine fuel pump. It's a little cube looking pump and provide 2 - 3.5 psi and 42 GPH. I'm wondering if I can wire it into the stock fuel pump circuit and it operate the way the stock one does. It is NOT a plunger type pump, its an electric motor type. I've read where some folks were using pumps from a 84 Honda Accord but no one had one in stock at a reasonable rate. Our local NAPA had one in store but wanted $70 for it. This little pump I have now was $50 after taxes. If it works I'm going to be ecstatic, but if it doesn't I'll save it and when I need drain the tank on the bike or my quad I'll have a little pump that can do it.
Here's a link to the pump:
Mr. Gasket brand | Part #: 42S
EDIT: So the pump I picked up is a Mr. Gasket universal import 4-6 cylinder carburated engine fuel pump. It's a little cube looking pump and provide 2 - 3.5 psi and 42 GPH. I'm wondering if I can wire it into the stock fuel pump circuit and it operate the way the stock one does. It is NOT a plunger type pump, its an electric motor type. I've read where some folks were using pumps from a 84 Honda Accord but no one had one in stock at a reasonable rate. Our local NAPA had one in store but wanted $70 for it. This little pump I have now was $50 after taxes. If it works I'm going to be ecstatic, but if it doesn't I'll save it and when I need drain the tank on the bike or my quad I'll have a little pump that can do it.
Here's a link to the pump:
Mr. Gasket brand | Part #: 42S
Last edited by dac181; 11-07-2013 at 01:28 AM.
#16
#17
Has anyone tried the universal fuel pumps from auto zone? Picked one up gonna try it when get home.
EDIT: So the pump I picked up is a Mr. Gasket universal import 4-6 cylinder carburated engine fuel pump. It's a little cube looking pump and provide 2 - 3.5 psi and 42 GPH. I'm wondering if I can wire it into the stock fuel pump circuit and it operate the way the stock one does. It is NOT a plunger type pump, its an electric motor type. I've read where some folks were using pumps from a 84 Honda Accord but no one had one in stock at a reasonable rate. Our local NAPA had one in store but wanted $70 for it. This little pump I have now was $50 after taxes. If it works I'm going to be ecstatic, but if it doesn't I'll save it and when I need drain the tank on the bike or my quad I'll have a little pump that can do it.
Here's a link to the pump:
Mr. Gasket brand | Part #: 42S
EDIT: So the pump I picked up is a Mr. Gasket universal import 4-6 cylinder carburated engine fuel pump. It's a little cube looking pump and provide 2 - 3.5 psi and 42 GPH. I'm wondering if I can wire it into the stock fuel pump circuit and it operate the way the stock one does. It is NOT a plunger type pump, its an electric motor type. I've read where some folks were using pumps from a 84 Honda Accord but no one had one in stock at a reasonable rate. Our local NAPA had one in store but wanted $70 for it. This little pump I have now was $50 after taxes. If it works I'm going to be ecstatic, but if it doesn't I'll save it and when I need drain the tank on the bike or my quad I'll have a little pump that can do it.
Here's a link to the pump:
Mr. Gasket brand | Part #: 42S
If your fuel pump doesn't work out I have both the fuel pump from the 84 Accord - 0 miles on it and a fuel pump to either an F3 or F4. If you need to go that route i'm sure we could work something out.
#18
So that's first on the list for in the morning then I'll work on the bike till I gotta get ready for work at 3:30pm.
#19
Found out the factory pump wiring will work the pump I bought. Was pretty sure it would but not certain. Tested it today and it works great, now I just have to figure out where my soldering iron and solder is at... also gotta figure out if I want to use a 90 degree elbow on the pump with a small piece of fuel line between the pump, filter, and petcock or use the filter that came with the pump. Thinking I'm gonna go with the elbow and put a fuel pressure regulator in line to the carbs to keep the pump from flooding them on start up. Anyone know exactly how much pressure it is the float valve require to close/open?
#20
its an emissions device it pumps fresh air into the head on the exhaust stroke to make the emissions read lower just a POS that needs removing, if you ever get head work done get a head without the pair valve ports it makes life a lot easier.
oh and you need to block off the airbox were the pipe connects from the PAIR valve and then put a block off connector on the vacuum nipple on the inlet these can be bought from any honda dealer
Last edited by jackojeff; 11-11-2013 at 08:33 AM.