VIN and EIN numbers on F2
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VIN and EIN numbers on F2
mine dont match. i picked up the bike the end of march, from a harley shop that was a trade-in. i jumped on the deal, $1800(out the door) for a bike with 8.2k miles. after the paperwork went through and i got the new title, i immediately questioned the mileage. i checked the VIN on the frame vs the EIN on the case and they dont match. sounds like a noob question but i figured they should, or am i mistaken? the bike runs great, i just dont want a stolen motor or frame that somehow slipped through the laws and fell into my hands. i thought the motor may be a replacement since i know the bike has been wrecked before just by minor details here and there (forks look off, red paint scratches under black paint(custom paint), subframe slightly tweaked, etc). i went back to the dealer, they called the person that traded it in and that guy said he had it less than a month, didnt even have the title in-hand yet, and had gotten it from out-of-state. sounds sketchy
Last edited by psx2rulz; 07-01-2010 at 07:35 PM.
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I wouldn't worry too much. On these older bikes, engines get replaced fairly often. For only $500 or so, it's pretty easy to swap out a blown motor.
Even if the mileage isn't accurate (whether actually lower or higher), I think you should only be concerned if the bike isn't as strong as it should be. As long as your title arrives and the bike runs how it should, then you're in good shape.
Even if the mileage isn't accurate (whether actually lower or higher), I think you should only be concerned if the bike isn't as strong as it should be. As long as your title arrives and the bike runs how it should, then you're in good shape.
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I think I misunderstood something - you got a title from the harley dealer, but the prev owner said he hadn't had time to get the title from his purchase? Or did the bike sit @ the harley place long enough for the title to catch up to the bike?
The frame is what you're registering, As long as your title matches the vin on the frame, the EIN doesn't matter.
The frame is what you're registering, As long as your title matches the vin on the frame, the EIN doesn't matter.
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correct. the harley dealership made him pay for license/title fees before he could even trade the bike in. my title matches my frame. however, i worked there for a short time and there was a harley that was brought in, a sportster, that had a ground off EIN or VIN i cant remember. the service dept called the police and the guy didnt get the bike back that i know of.
i can handle most repairs myself, but if i ever did have to bring it in, i was hoping that one or both the numbers werent on some blacklist database with police or dealers.
edit: chances are since the new title that i hold has the frame VIN on it, that that number clears just fine. guess the only one in question would be the case EIN
i can handle most repairs myself, but if i ever did have to bring it in, i was hoping that one or both the numbers werent on some blacklist database with police or dealers.
edit: chances are since the new title that i hold has the frame VIN on it, that that number clears just fine. guess the only one in question would be the case EIN
Last edited by psx2rulz; 07-02-2010 at 01:16 AM.
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mine dont match. i picked up the bike the end of march, from a harley shop that was a trade-in. i jumped on the deal, $1800(out the door) for a bike with 8.2k miles. after the paperwork went through and i got the new title, i immediately questioned the mileage. i checked the VIN on the frame vs the EIN on the case and they dont match.
The VIN is 17 digits starting with JH2PC & 12 more numbers/letters.
The EIN is 12 digits starting with PC25E- & 7 more numbers.
If you have the title in your hand, then you are good to go and there are no problems with registration.
The big problems happen if the VIN numbers don't match or are missing.
Some states like MN here started recording EIN numbers too. In these states, both numbers have to match but only if they already have the EIN.
As for the mileage, it happens some bikes just don't get ridden. You can still find some very low mileage bikes.
As long as run/rides fine, I wouldn't worry about it. F2 are tough bikes, most things can be easily fixed.
A simple tip over or crash isn't going to destroy one.
Throwing one into the woods at 130mph and snapping the frame in 1/2, well that's another story.
It's going to take more than honda polish to fix.
Last edited by Phil314; 07-05-2019 at 07:11 AM.
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