CBR 600F2 1991 - 1994 CBR 600F2

F2 build-900RR motor swap, 954RR Front end, F4i/RR body

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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:26 PM
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Subscribing, nice build so far. Is that CCT going to fit in, or are you going to have to notch the frame?
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The CCT fits just fine, that picture is just a little deceiving. The motor fits in fine without altering any major parts of the frame, although it is a very tight fit. Once I get done with the mock up I'll be tearing it back down to get the frame powder coated and will take pics of all the mounts and give specs on the spacers.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 06:14 PM
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After doing my fork swap and a Fox twin clicker rear shock, you might want to figure a way to strengthen the frame. I want to show my support, but before you paint, do some welding. You will notice with the fork swap that the frame is the weakest link and notice a sway in the twisties that won't go away. Forks will tighten everything up. But a awesome thread!
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 04:01 PM
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Well, sad day... about a week ago I figured out the 900RR motor has a dead cylinder, from the ammount of money for another one or the time to rebuild the current one this project is going to come out to more money than it's worth. So I'm selling everything off to try and pick up a 954RR I've been looking at.

The enitre bike is being parted out. This is what I have on ebay so far: vortex rear sets, 954 header, fairings, f4i cluster, and several other parts:
eBay My World - thesupraguy87

Feel free to send a message if there is anything you want me to post up.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:04 PM
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That's a crying shame about the motor .

On another note, I am VERY interested, if you don't mind answering a question, in knowing: What year of 954 was the fork pulled from, that bolted right up? And, is the length close, or did this change your geometry?
I have spent quite a bit of money on my project so far, and I am NOWHERE near done - I've been toying with the idea of a GSX-R 600/750 front-end swap, but could find 954 front ends for cheaper than the Zook's, and can also find lower-priced brake upgrade components.
Give me the scoop!
 
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JNSRacing
That's a crying shame about the motor .

On another note, I am VERY interested, if you don't mind answering a question, in knowing: What year of 954 was the fork pulled from, that bolted right up? And, is the length close, or did this change your geometry?
I have spent quite a bit of money on my project so far, and I am NOWHERE near done - I've been toying with the idea of a GSX-R 600/750 front-end swap, but could find 954 front ends for cheaper than the Zook's, and can also find lower-priced brake upgrade components.
Give me the scoop!
The forks should be almost identical length and rake, you have to use the tree's from a 929 or an 02 954, the 2003 RR's had roller bearings rather than the ball like the f2-f4's. The bearings were a direct swap also... the ones that came on the 954 lower I bought dropped right in.
 

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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 03:58 PM
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So, I assume there is no difference for the triple clamps from the '00 or '01 929, is that correct?
I definitely might be interested in the clip-ons you have available - OEM or aftermarket?
Regarding the brake components for the 954, I assume these are stock as well? I would clearly be going with braided lines.
I'll definitely have to do some research on currently available 954 front ends, hoping to find a complete one, if I can, since I assume there would be no way to used the F2 front wheel with the 954 forks, and retain the front-wheel-driven speedo - this would expedite my need to go forward with the ineviteable plan for a digital guage set - time for some internet research!
If you have pics of your various available components posted anywhere, feel free to PM me a link(s) to such.

Sorry for all the questions...
Thanks for all the answers!!
 
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JNSRacing
So, I assume there is no difference for the triple clamps from the '00 or '01 929, is that correct?
I definitely might be interested in the clip-ons you have available - OEM or aftermarket?
Regarding the brake components for the 954, I assume these are stock as well? I would clearly be going with braided lines.
I'll definitely have to do some research on currently available 954 front ends, hoping to find a complete one, if I can, since I assume there would be no way to used the F2 front wheel with the 954 forks, and retain the front-wheel-driven speedo - this would expedite my need to go forward with the ineviteable plan for a digital guage set - time for some internet research!
If you have pics of your various available components posted anywhere, feel free to PM me a link(s) to such.

Sorry for all the questions...
Thanks for all the answers!!
Yes, the 929 trees are the same, the stock rotors and calipers are more than enough for a 600. Trying to get the F2 wheel to work would be more trouble than it's worth. The 954 axle is a lot bigger than the F2 so that would mean custom wheel bearings... rotors etc.

Your best bet would be to use the F4i cluster, use a 900RR speedo senor and front sprocket cover.... that takes care of the speedo issue.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 08:49 AM
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...the stock rotors and calipers are more than enough for a 600. Trying to get the F2 wheel to work would be more trouble than it's worth. The 954 axle is a lot bigger than the F2 so that would mean custom wheel bearings... rotors etc.
Yeah, I know and agree that the 954 rotors and calipers are far more suited to the stopping tasks than the F2 setup, but, they are heavier - my desire for upgrades will be to keep weight down, especially since the forks/axle/wheel/triple clamp will likely be heavier as well - you might know better on that, being as I have never held similar sizes of both USD forks and traditional forks, at the same time - I just assume the front end would be more "beefy", to deal with the additional weight and power of the 954, compared to the F2.

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Your best bet would be to use the F4i cluster, use a 900RR speedo senor and front sprocket cover.... that takes care of the speedo issue.
I've read about this combination of parts quite a few times, and I do like the look of the F41 cluster, but it seems that a lot of the threads/posts I've checked out regarding this, have guys that end up with very inaccurate readings when finished.
Now, I don't know where the problem lies, whether it's a royal pain to set up the speedo-healer (if needed), or if the folks that I've followed the thread/posts of have been fudging up simple instructions, and only have themselves to blame - nonetheless, I decided quite a while ago on a Veypor digital set (though I am still keeping my eyes open) so I can have a more "customizeable" setup, and data-logging capabilities while at the track.

Thanks for the info, by the way! That's why I friggin' love these forums, a bunch of semi-like minded speed devils, sharing their genius with each other, and showing off whenever possible!!
 

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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JNSRacing
Yeah, I know and agree that the 954 rotors and calipers are far more suited to the stopping tasks than the F2 setup, but, they are heavier - my desire for upgrades will be to keep weight down, especially since the forks/axle/wheel/triple clamp will likely be heavier as well - you might know better on that, being as I have never held similar sizes of both USD forks and traditional forks, at the same time - I just assume the front end would be more "beefy", to deal with the additional weight and power of the 954, compared to the F2.



I've read about this combination of parts quite a few times, and I do like the look of the F41 cluster, but it seems that a lot of the threads/posts I've checked out regarding this, have guys that end up with very inaccurate readings when finished.
Now, I don't know where the problem lies, whether it's a royal pain to set up the speedo-healer (if needed), or if the folks that I've followed the thread/posts of have been fudging up simple instructions, and only have themselves to blame - nonetheless, I decided quite a while ago on a Veypor digital set (though I am still keeping my eyes open) so I can have a more "customizeable" setup, and data-logging capabilities while at the track.

Thanks for the info, by the way! That's why I friggin' love these forums, a bunch of semi-like minded speed devils, sharing their genius with each other, and showing off whenever possible!!
You would be surprised as far as the weight goes.. remeber the 954 is the lightest "big" CBR to date.... dry weight of the F2 should be around 407lbs, the 954RR is only ~370lbs.
I ran the F4i cluster with the 954 temp sensor and 900RR speedo sensor for over a season with no issues... I de-pined the F4i connector so it was a direct plug in for the F2, then you have three wires going to the speedo and one to the battery for the clock memory.

The speedo healer runs inline with the three speedo wires, get a GPS reading of your actual speed and what it's reading on the cluster... go to their website and type both in and it will give you your correction percentage. easy stuff.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by YourEnemy
You would be surprised as far as the weight goes.. remeber the 954 is the lightest "big" CBR to date.... dry weight of the F2 should be around 407lbs, the 954RR is only ~370lbs.
Wow! Having known only one individual with a 954, I'm not that familiar with them - I am shocked by this weight data! That's awesome!

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The speedo healer runs inline with the three speedo wires, get a GPS reading of your actual speed and what it's reading on the cluster... go to their website and type both in and it will give you your correction percentage. easy stuff.
Sounds like easy stuff, sure enough - just proves that part of what I speculated is true: that some of those who have been reporting the woes of their speedo healer have just not fully read the instructions and/or used resources available to them.

Thanks for the info, man!
 
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