Oh no!!! Starting probs (revisited)
#1
Oh no!!! Starting probs (revisited)
Well, what looked like a nice day, turned sour. The weather looked good enough to change starter, so I went to give it a go. Knowing the horror story's of maybe a carb rebalance, I thought I'd try and remove the starter without removing the airbox, carbs etc, and yes a 10mm ringer does the job, albeit 1/8th of a turn movement on one side it came out. Replaced it with a ebay bought one, fitting was as easy as removal. BOOHOO, still the same laboured sound, and eventually a almost flat battery. Taking a jump from a car the + lead onto the solinoid was getting hot as well as the starter itself after about 20-30 secs.
Looks like either the starter clutch or damper, both of which I don't fancy changing. Is there a way of tell which one causes the fault?
Oh and if anyone see's any on ebay etc, drop me a pm please, thanx.
Looks like either the starter clutch or damper, both of which I don't fancy changing. Is there a way of tell which one causes the fault?
Oh and if anyone see's any on ebay etc, drop me a pm please, thanx.
Last edited by Mo777; 02-17-2009 at 02:54 PM.
#3
Hi MO777.
It sounds like the damper to me but don't worry, its not too badder job. If I can di it then any body can and I'm a Chef.. LOL...
Theres a few of us on here that have done it.
Stu has done a great write up on the job and can be found here;
www.stu.co.nz/cbr1000fix/
Hope that helps.
Cheers.
It sounds like the damper to me but don't worry, its not too badder job. If I can di it then any body can and I'm a Chef.. LOL...
Theres a few of us on here that have done it.
Stu has done a great write up on the job and can be found here;
www.stu.co.nz/cbr1000fix/
Hope that helps.
Cheers.
Last edited by Bazman; 02-18-2009 at 06:58 PM. Reason: spelling error
#4
#5
Next, I'll have to get it in a garage/shed for alternator shaft removal to check damper/ starter clutch.
#6
After watching Stu's vid, it sounds exactly the same as mine does. So now I'm trying to source a used alternator damper, I've sent out one of those online part search things, so far nothing back yet.
So if anyone spots or knows of a '91 f-m getting broken up for spares that has a damper could you give me a shout.
Oh, preferably in the UK.
Thanx in advance.
So if anyone spots or knows of a '91 f-m getting broken up for spares that has a damper could you give me a shout.
Oh, preferably in the UK.
Thanx in advance.
#7
#8
After watching Stu's vid, it sounds exactly the same as mine does. So now I'm trying to source a used alternator damper, I've sent out one of those online part search things, so far nothing back yet.
So if anyone spots or knows of a '91 f-m getting broken up for spares that has a damper could you give me a shout.
Oh, preferably in the UK.
Thanx in advance.
So if anyone spots or knows of a '91 f-m getting broken up for spares that has a damper could you give me a shout.
Oh, preferably in the UK.
Thanx in advance.
So i suggest you to try to fix the damper first and if you see really worn plates there then maybe buy new one.
As changing the damper is not so difficult job i would suggest playing with it a little, cos it may save you few hundred bucks of the new damper.
I fixed my old damper and it still works.
#9
I'm gonna give it a go this week as my m8 is coming back onshore and is donating his garage to work in. It's got electric and heating, the only problem is that his BMW Rockster will have to live outside whilst the work is on going, but if all goes well it might only be for a few hours.
#10
LOL Put a tarp over the Beemer, it'll be alright out in the cold.
The main thing is to take your time with it. I'd say try and get the old one to go first by moving some of the plates around, and dare I say it, placing a similar diameter thin washer on the top thickest washer under the disc springs (about 1/2 the thickness of the steel plates in the damper)
The one "gotcha" (that got me about 6 times) was the top disc springs were upside down.
Good luck with it.
The main thing is to take your time with it. I'd say try and get the old one to go first by moving some of the plates around, and dare I say it, placing a similar diameter thin washer on the top thickest washer under the disc springs (about 1/2 the thickness of the steel plates in the damper)
The one "gotcha" (that got me about 6 times) was the top disc springs were upside down.
Good luck with it.