M1:s are known to be grippy and have a short life. There is a new one this year, Sportec M3, which is claimed to have better life without sacrifying grip. I'll test them on my Suzuki in June, not because I want to change from Pilot Power, but because Michelin Powers are not available where I will be at that time.

Interesting comment from Trips, I have never had problem with Michelin power on road or track. On rain wet surface, there is no problem to do a wheelie anytime without spinning the tyre (on the Suzuki). The are however reports from track users in Sweden and also US, that the front could wash out during intensive track use when the tyre begins to detoriate.

 

Hello,

I drive now my 1000 F with Dragon Supercorsa pro, rear and front and I am very satisfied. They need some warming and more pressure but are very good for driving everywhere. It is a bit softer but it does'nt make any problems. Maybe they last a little less but I think the quality for driving is the only thing that matters.

 

One other thing I find interesting. I have heard reports that the same tyre can be different! A bike mager in in OZ did a test a few years ago on tyres. The commented that the Dunlop D207's were made in several places around the world and that they could feel the difference between them.

This makes me wonder if the same thing is true with the Pilot Powers. Some people love them and some people hate them.

Or it could just come down to the things that I mentioned in a previous thread in that riding style, road type and how well you maintain your tyre pressure can mean the difference between whether you like or hate a tyre.

 

city, a bit more left wear ?????????? Road crown, this is a common thing on touring bikes. Probably worse, if you ride on the right, less near the crown. Clean and free, Ripp'n Good trivia !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

This was an excellent web site
There is among other things a circular diagram to see which tire is good for handling, wet conditions etc.
http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/fr...113028&lang=EN

Interesting to see that my pilot roads in front are more of a budget tire than yours pilot power.
Pilot sport seems to be more of a comfort tire.

Bridgestone´s web site really sucks. Nothing seems to be working. Not with my firefox anyway.
http://www.bridgestone.eu/bfe/index.jsp

 

in response to the M-1 thoughts. i also have them on my bike. rear is a Sportec M1 160/60 Zr17 (69w) and the front is Sportec M1 110/70 zr17 (54w). Both are damn near brand new. I approve of they way they handle in the turns, but i cant seem to get them to grip on launches or throttling from slow to fast speeds. when at a dead stop, i have to take off pretty slow and even then, when getting to about 5-10mph and punching it, she starts spinning on ice. now lets changhe it up, say cruising/racing from a roll @ about 20 mph then "punching" it, same thing. ice skating again. reminder that these tires are about 3 months old and have alot of life left. i dont understand how they can perform great in turns (for me) and suck on straits. the ONLY thing that i can think of, is that my bike is an 87' and has that "original" small rear and needs a fatter tire. BUT, i have read that the only way i can put a fatter tire would be by replacing the swing arm and i dont understand why. anywho, back to the tires, any opinions on why or what could be the problem?

 

Just put a new dunlop qualifier on the rear of my 90. Have about 500 miles onit and am very pleased with it. Granted I'm a flatlander in Kansas so I don't get to push it in corners very often, but it sticks well when I push it hard out of the corners and it has a good ride. Hope this helps.

 

I used Metzeler Sportec M1's for several years. They grip great, but the front wears out in 3.5K miles. I have Avon 45/46 sport/touring tires on now and I like them better than the Metzelers. Took me a few days to get used to the triangular cross-section. When I first leaned the bike, it wanted to keep on going. Only have 1K on the tires, but I hope they last a lot longer than the Metzelers.

 

I look at the front tire, and it's a Continental ContiForce.
It is getting down a little, so I will do both tyres at once.
The Continental is showing some cracks on the sides about 1cm from the tread, My next ride is to the shop to get them to evaluate this to see if it is a concern.

 

I did a bit of a ring around today to get the best price and see what other people thought.
Nearly everyone reckon a Pilot Power or Pilot Road.

I found one shop who knew a bit and had nearly the best price, he said: Pilot Power on the front, Pilot Power or Road for the back.
He also said that I should run a 170 as it will improve my handling and that there are no advantages on running a 180 (except for the look).