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HELP WITH SPROCKETS!!!

Old Nov 9, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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damn, get off of the soapbox. it depends on the track as to wether or not which bike is faster. on a track with long straights and sweeping corners the 1000rr will come out ahead . on a small super twisty track the 600 will leave the 1000 behind just because of the weight difference. what good is 160hp when you cant keep the rpms up long enough to use them. i have ridden on both kinds of tracks and seen the difference.

besides. its just easier to buy both bikes so you always have the best bike for whatever track you are on.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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it depends on the track as to wether or not which bike is faster. on a track with long straights and sweeping corners the 1000rr will come out ahead . on a small super twisty track the 600 will leave the 1000 behind just because of the weight difference.
Yeah.. you'd think this would be obvious to people.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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I've also had my plastic sucked off by AMA race prepped 600RR's by CCS champion level riders.
[sm=imsorry.gif] ...I'll try not to suck the plastics off next time... J.K. , I don't actaully know you but I'm sure we've probably been to a couple of the same track days in the past (your a MN guy right - I know I;ve seen the scren name on the MSBR forum).

But what I think gixxereater is getting at is that 99% of the time the better rider will be faster, not the bigger engined bike. Not only is this is true on the track but the street as well. I ride by 98 Ducati 748 on the street and ride with a lot of guys on modern 1000's. Keep in mind my 748 weights at least 30-40 lbs more and only makes 94 HP, yet I can pretty much eat every last one of them on anything short of a mile or longer straight (granted I am the only one who actaully races, but a few of them are advid track day guys).
 
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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Yeah.. you'd think this would be obvious to people
I think he was referring to the post that I took out. It would make more sense then.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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[sm=imsorry.gif] ...I'll try not to suck the plastics off next time... J.K. , I don't actaully know you but I'm sure we've probably been to a couple of the same track days in the past (your a MN guy right - I know I;ve seen the scren name on the MSBR forum).
LOL.....well, you could very well be one of them. I was referring to Alex and Dean from Track Addix at the time of post as they SMOKED my 900RR at MAM but yes.......I dont doubt you too have eaten it for lunch. LOL. I know there was a race prepped SV-650 crawling all over us in the tight stuff........right up until he drove off the track in 14.
Yeah, you've probably seen it in my avatar over there.

You are right though.......the moral of the story is that all the horsepower in the world wont do you any good if you can't ride it.

That's all.

Enjoy your ride man.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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I ride with Busas, zx14'sand 1000's to, i ride a 600. What happens is they pass my bike on the straights and i pass them in the corners. +1 on the sv650, not fast at all, but at tracks around the world many guys on 1000's learn how their riding skills really measure up. Learn to squeeze every bit of performance out of your bike at a track school and track days, if you don't pass squids on bigger bikes then get a bigger bike.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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the last trackday i did a girl on an aprillia 250 destroyed the entire track.

no one could touch her
 
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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To answer the original question...if you're looking for sprockets, you can usually find kits online, and usually at a decent price - under $200. If you're looking for more 'around town oomph' try dropping a tooth in front (to 15) and gaining a couple in the rear (try +4). Kits usually come with the front and rear sprocket, and a good chain (stick with RK, EK, DID chains, Vortex, Driven, AFAM, Spike sprockets). If its too agressive, you can put the stock chain and rear sprocket back on. Keep in mind that most of the kits will come in a 520 pitch (width, basically) for less rotating mass (your bike comes stock with 525), and a lot of the rear sprockets are aluminum for the same reason. Durability kind of takes a hit, so keep an eye on wear - both the sprocket teeth and the chain, and keep it clean and lubed. If you look around you can find steel sprockets.

The advice some of these guys have dished out is kinda harsh and I hate the verbatim rant that people get when they try to ask questions, but they do have a good point. I know you're haning with some serious muscle, and riding with big bikes can be frustrating at times... but with practice and investing in a performance riding school, you'll be able to school them, in the city, on the highway, and the track, and feel all the much better because you're on the smaller bike. I've been riding a newerR6 all year, while many of my friend's have picked up R1's and K6/7 Gixxer 1000's, but believe me, when you're dragging a knee around a 2 lane corner and passing your buddies on the outside, you'll feel like Jesus must feel when he's passing his friends on the outside.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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You'll have a lot of fun if you do -1/+2, imo. Just don't run into my car when you're practicing your wheelies "around town." And start saving your money for fairing repair.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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well i ordered a -1 and i'm just gona get use to that at first. iordered it from vortex friday. and i kinda found out what ya'll were talkin bout. i finally went for the first time sunday riding on some curvy roads with the fellas. a friend on his busa kept gettin in my way cus he was goin slower.i coulda passed him easily in the turns but didnt know the road that well or what car my be comin head on. some of the guys said that i was moving kinda fast through the turn for it bein my first time.we were takin turns about 75 to 80 mph.i havn't leaned the bike that far yet. it was a freakin blast!!! an i'm fixn to get some frame sliders for christmas so i'm not gona be goinwild with the wheelies.
 
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