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Old 07-31-2007, 09:07 AM
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I went -1 +3. DID chain, afam sprockets. Best thing I've done to it by far. And screw the speedo. Do you really do the speed limit anyway?
Hell no...but i do like to know how fast i am going and also i dont wanna put a tun of miles on the odo when i didn't ride them...

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-1 +4 just like me dude just do that you can rock it all day anyway you want enough torque to get it done and enough top end to outrun 5.0 ****ggga
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I think im gonna do either -1/0 or 0/+2…I know its not much but I don’t want a tun more torque…just a bit.

and what about the chain guys? Do I really need a 520 conversion? I would rather have it last longer and be stronger w/ 525...
 
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-1 +4 just like me dude just do that you can rock it all day anyway you want enough torque to get it done and enough top end to outrun 5.0 ****ggga
*****. I agree with JZ
 
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Or just go 80 up in the back. You can ride to work on one wheel? [sm=goodidea.gif]
 
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A lotta the sites im lookin at make me put in the make and model of the bike b4 I see the sprockets...then for my bike (2000 F4) they dont have many choices at all...can i use sprockets from other CBR600s? like an 05 F4i or something for example?
 
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A lotta the sites im lookin at make me put in the make and model of the bike b4 I see the sprockets...then for my bike (2000 F4) they dont have many choices at all...can i use sprockets from other CBR600s? like an 05 F4i or something for example?
hmm - you just pretty much call them and tell them what bike you have, they will send you the right ones.

about the 520 conversion, well it's less weight rotation for the motor to push to move the wheel.. lets just say youtake off2lbson the bike itself, you wouldnt really see the HP/torque difference - but if youtake off2lbs on the chain and sprocket (which the motor actually has to move that part) itless ensura (spelling?)and will be easier for the motor to spin the wheel (not including the more torque with the teeth setup). so if your going to do a sprocket change, mind as well do 520 kit for it. Yes, a 520 will probablybreak faster then a 525 butif you maintain it- it should last for a good while..

i mean if your just going to do +2 in the back, then dont.. but i would kind-of research the 520 conversion with -1/+2.. alot of people like it and keep it street rideable still.

alsothe front sprocket is alot harder to take out(so if yourgoing to do like -1/0 or something, just go0/+3)so you dont have to take off the casing and everything..

i wish i could do my -1/+2 520 conversion but it's on my wish-list.. still need to get my frame sliders haha..





 
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I have a 01 f4i and was just getting into wheelies and **** at the time, so I decided to go -1/0 520 conversion. It is perfect for the street and I can clutch up 60mph stand ups in 3rd easy, I am eventually going to go to a stunt set up so i can start doing lots and learning circles. Speedo says around 67-72 at 60 or so but I can take out r1s all day draggin as well. I would go -1 front and 520 conversion, I believe like vermino said it actually takes off 4 lbs rotating mass and it does make a big difference. My chain has lasted at least 1,000 clutch wheelies and you can't even tell it is worn, so don't worry about the chain. I got my whole set up from denniskirk.com for like 150 or something vortex sprokets and rk chain. I think that is the way to go to get a torquey street bike with out losing a lot of speed and you can get a speedohealer if you want. hope this helps... later
 
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I have a 01 f4i and was just getting into wheelies and **** at the time, so I decided to go -1/0 520 conversion. It is perfect for the street and I can clutch up 60mph stand ups in 3rd easy, I am eventually going to go to a stunt set up so i can start doing lots and learning circles. Speedo says around 67-72 at 60 or so but I can take out r1s all day draggin as well. I would go -1 front and 520 conversion, I believe like vermino said it actually takes off 4 lbs rotating mass and it does make a big difference. My chain has lasted at least 1,000 clutch wheelies and you can't even tell it is worn, so don't worry about the chain. I got my whole set up from denniskirk.com for like 150 or something vortex sprokets and rk chain. I think that is the way to go to get a torquey street bike with out losing a lot of speed and you can get a speedohealer if you want. hope this helps... later
yeah at least if you do the 520 conversion with -1/0andyou dont think it's torquey enough - then just have to go up in the rear with a 520 sprocket. But seriously 520 conversion is a nice mod to do if your going to do sprockets.

 
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Ok...so I went to the motorcycle dealership yesterday and talked to a stunter that worked there. I've decided to go with a Renthol Sprocket set, either -1/+2 or -1/+3, and an EK SRX 120 rivet link chain. I had my mind made up for a 525 yesterday but now you guys are makin me doubt my decision. The thing is, I tend to put off maintenance and not lube my chain often enough, so the 525 having lower maintenance is a big plus for me. Any thoughts on this? I'm too lazy to keep up completely w/ chain maintenance even though I know I should.
 
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Maintenance is the same on a 525 and a 520 as far as I know. The only difference is that you are losing 3lbs of rotating mass. You still have to lube them both just as often. You may have to tighten your chain a little more often with a 520 but I haven't really noticed a big deal more maintenence with mine. You go with what you want but I am telling you for the street I am totally satisfied with my -1 520 kit. I cannot even get on it all the way in first with out the wheel coming up and then shiftin in to 2nd its right back up, and that is just drag launchin it. So I am telling you that will be plenty for the time being, when your ready to get into slow **** then you are going to have to gear it again. But do what you want. check it out at denniskirk.com the stock kit is 8lbs and the rk quick accel kit is 5lbs http://denniskirk.com/jsp/product_ca...amp;mmyId=6944
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Ok...so I went to the motorcycle dealership yesterday and talked to a stunter that worked there. I've decided to go with a Renthol Sprocket set, either -1/+2 or -1/+3, and an EK SRX 120 rivet link chain. I had my mind made up for a 525 yesterday but now you guys are makin me doubt my decision. The thing is, I tend to put off maintenance and not lube my chain often enough, so the 525 having lower maintenance is a big plus for me. Any thoughts on this? I'm too lazy to keep up completely w/ chain maintenance even though I know I should.
have to agree with twistatech - the 520 shouldnt havent anymore maintance as the 525 - it will wear out before the 525 but that's like saying "what will break first, wood or steel?". the 520 conversion will be less rotation mass on the engine which makes it alot easier on the engine itself. with lubing and everything, hey i'm the same way man - i just want to ride my bike, not work on it everyday.. but there are days you wash your bike but just look at your chain and if it looks kind-of nasty, then put it on the stand and clean it off with a rag - there are some degreasers you shouldnt use on the chain but i'll try to find the post of which not to use.. once it's clean, just wipe it off and then lube it.

i mean it's a for sure thing to do a 520 conversion and at least the front sprocket, and if you ever want it more torquey, then just buy a single rear sprocket later on. Also "Driven" makes a rear sprocket and chain colors if you about style =P (also a good company)

how many miles you have on that chain you got on right now?

here is a quote from Baxsom with information about a 520 kit in my inbox when i was asking about the kit myself

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one of the main reasons that the guy that owns hooliganbiketech did the rear only is ease of install.

-1 in the front is a great idea because it gives the same acelleration as +3 in the back.

15/43 is a pretty common mod on the 04/05 models because they come with a 41 tooth stock

i did 15/43 because i found the entire kit at an unbelievable price. if i had it to do over again i would go 15/44 on my 06 because it came originally with a 42 tooth rear.

you cant go wrong with a -1/+2 combo

as far as 520, that is hit or miss, a lot of people say you wont notice the difference but less rotating mass makes the bike handle better and take off quicker because less hp is used just to get the wheel turning. especialy if you use hardened aluminum sprockets. I have AFAM sprockets and a DID ERV3 chain in 520, i like it a lot and even after 1500 hard miles on it no stretch yet. other good sprockets are sprocket specialist, driven, or renthal.

supposedly they are getting better but a lot of people are saying to stay away from vortex aluminum. i guess that they arent hardenening their aluminum.

RK makes good chains as well. i just went with the DID because it came with the kit.

hope this helps
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