2nd gear stand ups
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ORIGINAL: Scott982
Ok I just got on this forum looking for some technical advise and I saw this thread...turboedsupe has the right idea but every one else doing power wheelies on the front pegs is dangerous and well it just looks stupid. Also if you are tugging on the bars when you bring it up you are gonna end up setting it down crooked and getting a nasty tank slapper. Clutchin it is way safer and you have so much more control. When you are doing power wheelies it takes all that power to bring it up and then if you hit bp and have a handfull of throttle your gonna loop especially if your not covering the brake which is alot harder to do when your on the front pegs. Do them staggered and you won't get tired as fast and you can work the brake easier but don't try to power it up staggered cause you will crash you need to clutch it...and saying that you shouldn't wheelie in first is stupid I tought my friend how to wheelie on his 600rr in the lot we stunt at in 1st gear and he was catching idle in a month and he crashed a couple times but nothing major and its alot better to go down in 1st in a parking lot then on the highway at 80mph. Also if your having trouble bringing it up second just clutch it harder cause that f4i will come up in 3rd all day long on the highway. I can't stress enough COVER THE BRAKE!!!! and if you are new to riding in general get completely familiar and comfortable on the bike before you start trying to wheelie..If you don't agree with me whatever I dont't really care but I have been doing this stuff since 98 and have seen alot of really bad wrecks on the highway from people not doing stuff correctly so just be safe...
Ok I just got on this forum looking for some technical advise and I saw this thread...turboedsupe has the right idea but every one else doing power wheelies on the front pegs is dangerous and well it just looks stupid. Also if you are tugging on the bars when you bring it up you are gonna end up setting it down crooked and getting a nasty tank slapper. Clutchin it is way safer and you have so much more control. When you are doing power wheelies it takes all that power to bring it up and then if you hit bp and have a handfull of throttle your gonna loop especially if your not covering the brake which is alot harder to do when your on the front pegs. Do them staggered and you won't get tired as fast and you can work the brake easier but don't try to power it up staggered cause you will crash you need to clutch it...and saying that you shouldn't wheelie in first is stupid I tought my friend how to wheelie on his 600rr in the lot we stunt at in 1st gear and he was catching idle in a month and he crashed a couple times but nothing major and its alot better to go down in 1st in a parking lot then on the highway at 80mph. Also if your having trouble bringing it up second just clutch it harder cause that f4i will come up in 3rd all day long on the highway. I can't stress enough COVER THE BRAKE!!!! and if you are new to riding in general get completely familiar and comfortable on the bike before you start trying to wheelie..If you don't agree with me whatever I dont't really care but I have been doing this stuff since 98 and have seen alot of really bad wrecks on the highway from people not doing stuff correctly so just be safe...
Thank You, its nice to finally get some good opinions from someone that knows what they are talking about and without having it shoved down your throat. I agree that powering it up isn't as good as clutching them, but thats how I learned to do it for now. I'm going to work on clutching them as soon as I get back out on the bike (waiting for tire). You got your buddy ideling 1st gear wheelies in a month? Damn, I need to practice more LOL. I don't have a cage yet so I don't want to attempt the slower stuff yet and put it down and smash it all up. Is that a sick cage on yours? If so how do you like it? Thanks for the info
-Jesse-
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yo turbo lets see one of your videos!.......i am not about to start fighting with anybody cause i am sick of some of the people on this forum.. i put that stuff as my view, just like 01600F4i said (thanks by the way).. you do them how you wanna and i will do them how i wanna..and i will put my opinion.. you can put yours.. yo i didnt learn stand ups first and then learn sit downs did you??? no because they are not easier.... they are better but not easier.... my bike has 18000 miles on it and the clutch warms up quick i am not riding the clutch..... you can clutch it up or not. if the wheel comes up whats the difference??? havent had it tank slap yet.... let me see some of your god damn videos before you start calling me out on mine.... that we have stated is about a month old already.....
i dont need to watch the videos on stuntlife i will be at the stuntlife sponsored show in 10 days... and i have about 20 dvds..... everybody does them different ... i am just trying to help people and you are being a *******....
well i searched stuntlife and got this ...... Just remember, clutching wheelies is pretty hard on the clutch and even THAT wont wear it out much faster than normal use. Unless you do that wrong too............
i dont need to watch the videos on stuntlife i will be at the stuntlife sponsored show in 10 days... and i have about 20 dvds..... everybody does them different ... i am just trying to help people and you are being a *******....
well i searched stuntlife and got this ...... Just remember, clutching wheelies is pretty hard on the clutch and even THAT wont wear it out much faster than normal use. Unless you do that wrong too............
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ORIGINAL: Turnin20s
Thank You, its nice to finally get some good opinions from someone that knows what they are talking about and without having it shoved down your throat. I agree that powering it up isn't as good as clutching them, but thats how I learned to do it for now. I'm going to work on clutching them as soon as I get back out on the bike (waiting for tire). You got your buddy ideling 1st gear wheelies in a month? Damn, I need to practice more LOL. I don't have a cage yet so I don't want to attempt the slower stuff yet and put it down and smash it all up. Is that a sick cage on yours? If so how do you like it? Thanks for the info
-Jesse-
ORIGINAL: Scott982
Ok I just got on this forum looking for some technical advise and I saw this thread...turboedsupe has the right idea but every one else doing power wheelies on the front pegs is dangerous and well it just looks stupid. Also if you are tugging on the bars when you bring it up you are gonna end up setting it down crooked and getting a nasty tank slapper. Clutchin it is way safer and you have so much more control. When you are doing power wheelies it takes all that power to bring it up and then if you hit bp and have a handfull of throttle your gonna loop especially if your not covering the brake which is alot harder to do when your on the front pegs. Do them staggered and you won't get tired as fast and you can work the brake easier but don't try to power it up staggered cause you will crash you need to clutch it...and saying that you shouldn't wheelie in first is stupid I tought my friend how to wheelie on his 600rr in the lot we stunt at in 1st gear and he was catching idle in a month and he crashed a couple times but nothing major and its alot better to go down in 1st in a parking lot then on the highway at 80mph. Also if your having trouble bringing it up second just clutch it harder cause that f4i will come up in 3rd all day long on the highway. I can't stress enough COVER THE BRAKE!!!! and if you are new to riding in general get completely familiar and comfortable on the bike before you start trying to wheelie..If you don't agree with me whatever I dont't really care but I have been doing this stuff since 98 and have seen alot of really bad wrecks on the highway from people not doing stuff correctly so just be safe...
Ok I just got on this forum looking for some technical advise and I saw this thread...turboedsupe has the right idea but every one else doing power wheelies on the front pegs is dangerous and well it just looks stupid. Also if you are tugging on the bars when you bring it up you are gonna end up setting it down crooked and getting a nasty tank slapper. Clutchin it is way safer and you have so much more control. When you are doing power wheelies it takes all that power to bring it up and then if you hit bp and have a handfull of throttle your gonna loop especially if your not covering the brake which is alot harder to do when your on the front pegs. Do them staggered and you won't get tired as fast and you can work the brake easier but don't try to power it up staggered cause you will crash you need to clutch it...and saying that you shouldn't wheelie in first is stupid I tought my friend how to wheelie on his 600rr in the lot we stunt at in 1st gear and he was catching idle in a month and he crashed a couple times but nothing major and its alot better to go down in 1st in a parking lot then on the highway at 80mph. Also if your having trouble bringing it up second just clutch it harder cause that f4i will come up in 3rd all day long on the highway. I can't stress enough COVER THE BRAKE!!!! and if you are new to riding in general get completely familiar and comfortable on the bike before you start trying to wheelie..If you don't agree with me whatever I dont't really care but I have been doing this stuff since 98 and have seen alot of really bad wrecks on the highway from people not doing stuff correctly so just be safe...
Thank You, its nice to finally get some good opinions from someone that knows what they are talking about and without having it shoved down your throat. I agree that powering it up isn't as good as clutching them, but thats how I learned to do it for now. I'm going to work on clutching them as soon as I get back out on the bike (waiting for tire). You got your buddy ideling 1st gear wheelies in a month? Damn, I need to practice more LOL. I don't have a cage yet so I don't want to attempt the slower stuff yet and put it down and smash it all up. Is that a sick cage on yours? If so how do you like it? Thanks for the info
-Jesse-
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how long did it take you guys to be able to ride it out? i got a 929, power up or clutchin it up and the same thing happens, it floats up as easy as it should, but it drops straight back down, i'm sure its all me, not having the kahunas to keep it up, but how long should it take till i can? i watched that video that was posted earlier giving lessons on how to do it, when it comes to back off the throttle, i think i'm closing to much. should i just hold it at steady or should i be rolling off? its frustrating me because on my old bike (rvf400) i would clutch it 1st and ride it for a pretty fair distance, now i think i'm giving the bike a little more respect than i should when trying to wheelie.
man, any help will be greatly greatly appreciated, frustration is eating me away!
i'm sure you guys know the feeling of knowing you can do better but not being able to push past a certian point.
man, any help will be greatly greatly appreciated, frustration is eating me away!
i'm sure you guys know the feeling of knowing you can do better but not being able to push past a certian point.
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^^^^ If it comes back down you are not high enough balance point is way back there and you will know when you get there cause the bike will stay up and you won't be gaining any speed. It justs takes time to get there, it took me probably a month or two before I was actually at balance point and could go as far as I want. Just cover the brake
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sweet as, also, would you say sit downs or stand ups are better? i wanna be able to do stand ups more, but at the moment, i just want to ride one out. if stand ups, would you be standing before you clutch it, or as it raises, stand up then?
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