Braking question! how many fingers?
#11
to each their own. riding styles vary from person to person and road to road. i ride mountain bikes as well and i keep fingers on the brake too, but there is no throttle to twist. if your riding hard on a good road or the track, your fingers wont have time to get off the lever. on a road with longer straights or cruising around, i see no need to rest on the levers. but that's just my opinion....
#12
do you ever follow people that rest their foot on the brake, then ride it in corners when they aren't even making the speed limit? i laugh because they would be better off just driving the car in the corner, but instead they tap the brake completely at the wrong time forcing the car to fight itself in a turn. they feel safe knowing that the brake is right there in case the car gets wildly out of control. i figure the same is true on my bike. if i need to brake quickly, its a finger pull away. however, panic can cause braking too quickly and really cause more problem than focusing on avoiding the danger. the extra fraction of a second allows me to make an instinctual decision to brake or not. i stay alert as a requirement for survival, but try to stay loose and relaxed to find my rhythm and make me a better rider. just my thoughts....
#13
do you ever follow people that rest their foot on the brake, then ride it in corners when they aren't even making the speed limit? i laugh because they would be better off just driving the car in the corner, but instead they tap the brake completely at the wrong time forcing the car to fight itself in a turn. they feel safe knowing that the brake is right there in case the car gets wildly out of control. i figure the same is true on my bike. if i need to brake quickly, its a finger pull away. however, panic can cause braking too quickly and really cause more problem than focusing on avoiding the danger. the extra fraction of a second allows me to make an instinctual decision to brake or not. i stay alert as a requirement for survival, but try to stay loose and relaxed to find my rhythm and make me a better rider. just my thoughts....
As for my bike, I haven't ridden much, still new to bikes with motors. I will however apply the same principal, brake before throttle through, nice smooth consistent throttle. I do however understand your point, try to be loose and relaxed to make better decisions, I don't freak out under pressure, I keep calm and make a decision based on what's going on as well.
Stay safe!
#14
I never say always However, I usually cover the brake with two and occasionally cover the clutch with two. The trick, I've found, to prevent panic stops that screw up your normal ride flow is to practice, practice, practice and always (ya, never say always) have a way out when that dingbat woman or critter darts in your path. When you get caught up in the moment or you get distracted is when the stuff hits the fan and you end up asphalt surfing.
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#18
Got yelled at repeatedly during my brc because I use 2 fingers on the brake. But I passed.
So there is no 'required' number of fingers on the brake. I use 2 fingers because, for me, it prevents 'overbraking': pulling the brake too hard too fast. Using 2 fingers I have lifted the rear off the ground in an emergency braking situation. Which means I was at the very limit of front braking.
Now that being said, ignore everything I said you have to do what's comfortable for you as there is no hard and fast rule. You need to find the technique that allows you to ride safely and comfortably. If that means using your pinky and ring finger to brake, go with it if you can fully compress the brake lever. Don't be offended if i see you using those fingers and decide to change lanes
Brake effectively
Brake comfortably
Those are the only requirements
So there is no 'required' number of fingers on the brake. I use 2 fingers because, for me, it prevents 'overbraking': pulling the brake too hard too fast. Using 2 fingers I have lifted the rear off the ground in an emergency braking situation. Which means I was at the very limit of front braking.
Now that being said, ignore everything I said you have to do what's comfortable for you as there is no hard and fast rule. You need to find the technique that allows you to ride safely and comfortably. If that means using your pinky and ring finger to brake, go with it if you can fully compress the brake lever. Don't be offended if i see you using those fingers and decide to change lanes
Brake effectively
Brake comfortably
Those are the only requirements
#19
Track and street are two different environments. On the track, you know all of your
brake/clutch moments, so you don't need the "instant access". It hasn't been specifically mentioned,
but I'm reading some track-based opinions, interjected
into this more street-oriented thread.
However, on the street, I strongly contend, that the 3-5 hundreths lost while getting your
fingers, to the controls equates to 10 feet additionally traveled, to as much as 60-300 feet
(depending on speed, of course). When an avoidance vs collision can often be measured
in inches and feet, I strongly endorse, keeping those fingers planted.
Mere perception and synaptic/muscle-firing reaction times are already adding
4-6 hundreths to your time, already (In a fine-tuned athlete). Mean-while destiny is
hurtling towards you.
Ern
brake/clutch moments, so you don't need the "instant access". It hasn't been specifically mentioned,
but I'm reading some track-based opinions, interjected
into this more street-oriented thread.
However, on the street, I strongly contend, that the 3-5 hundreths lost while getting your
fingers, to the controls equates to 10 feet additionally traveled, to as much as 60-300 feet
(depending on speed, of course). When an avoidance vs collision can often be measured
in inches and feet, I strongly endorse, keeping those fingers planted.
Mere perception and synaptic/muscle-firing reaction times are already adding
4-6 hundreths to your time, already (In a fine-tuned athlete). Mean-while destiny is
hurtling towards you.
Ern
#20
Ern so are you saying keep the brake covered b/c it gives slightly better reaction time?