Total Control Advanced Riding Course convo
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03-14-2012 | 02:44 PM
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Dragondima, I don't have any firsthand feedback for the particular course you asked about, other than hearing good things about it. However, I wanted to tell you to not rule out track days/track day organizations. I don't know what you have avail in Philly but there are several good track day orgs around the country that have good new-track-rider "schools". They have instructor/control riders that help you learn technique & how to safely execute. Each riding session is discussed in a classroom setting w/ your instructor to help you build confidence & get almost instant feedback. You can do your research & find those track day orgs & inquire about their instruction.
I've done many track days w/ these types of new rider instructional classes going on. I've been really impressed w/ the rate in which the new track riders gain valuable skills. Its really amazing to see their confidence level go from timid to excited w/ the proper instruction & positive reinforcement.
Regarding gear: Many track day orgs rent gear. So, you may not have to buy everything. A simple inquiry w/ them will let you know what they provide.
Yes, riding track can get expensive. Sharing the costs w/a fellow rider will decrease the expense. As Kuro mentioned, sharing a trailer (& gas) w/ another rider is good idea. Also, if staying overnight, sharing motel is a good idea to cut costs.
Good luck in your choices.
I've done many track days w/ these types of new rider instructional classes going on. I've been really impressed w/ the rate in which the new track riders gain valuable skills. Its really amazing to see their confidence level go from timid to excited w/ the proper instruction & positive reinforcement.
Regarding gear: Many track day orgs rent gear. So, you may not have to buy everything. A simple inquiry w/ them will let you know what they provide.
Yes, riding track can get expensive. Sharing the costs w/a fellow rider will decrease the expense. As Kuro mentioned, sharing a trailer (& gas) w/ another rider is good idea. Also, if staying overnight, sharing motel is a good idea to cut costs.
Good luck in your choices.
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03-14-2012 | 08:09 PM
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That's the book, Total Control, in Google Books
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03-14-2012 | 08:49 PM
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That's the book, Total Control, in Google Books
That's the book, Total Control, in Google Books
Ganzey, i respectfully disagree with your stance on beginners needing to get old bikes. Though i agree it may have benefits for some, new bikes implement new technologies, and changed many aspects of the bike. Just because a bike is older, doesn't make it good to learn on, you can still get a supersport that's from the 80's and still find it difficult because of throttle response, and torque. That's my take on it anyways.
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03-14-2012 | 09:14 PM
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Ganzey, i respectfully disagree with your stance on beginners needing to get old bikes. Though i agree it may have benefits for some, new bikes implement new technologies, and changed many aspects of the bike. Just because a bike is older, doesn't make it good to learn on, you can still get a supersport that's from the 80's and still find it difficult because of throttle response, and torque. That's my take on it anyways.
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03-15-2012 | 12:16 PM
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Absolute Cycle Experience runs at NJMP and will provide loaner leathers for free for first-timers. Their coaches will observe you on the track and offer critiques and suggestions. Other track organizations probably offer similar programs, since they want to make it as easy as possible for you to get on the track and get hooked. And if your brother and his friends ride track, chances are someone could lend you gear that way, too.
Getting together with other riders who have read the Lee Parks book, and observing/photographing/videotaping each other doing the parking lot drills isn't a bad idea, but it's not the same as being observed and coached by a qualified instructor.
Getting together with other riders who have read the Lee Parks book, and observing/photographing/videotaping each other doing the parking lot drills isn't a bad idea, but it's not the same as being observed and coached by a qualified instructor.
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03-15-2012 | 03:40 PM
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Absolute Cycle Experience runs at NJMP and will provide loaner leathers for free for first-timers. Their coaches will observe you on the track and offer critiques and suggestions. Other track organizations probably offer similar programs, since they want to make it as easy as possible for you to get on the track and get hooked. And if your brother and his friends ride track, chances are someone could lend you gear that way, too.
Getting together with other riders who have read the Lee Parks book, and observing/photographing/videotaping each other doing the parking lot drills isn't a bad idea, but it's not the same as being observed and coached by a qualified instructor.
Getting together with other riders who have read the Lee Parks book, and observing/photographing/videotaping each other doing the parking lot drills isn't a bad idea, but it's not the same as being observed and coached by a qualified instructor.
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03-26-2012 | 06:44 PM
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Hey all... Tony from Tonys Track Days here.
Just to clarify... our intro program is FREE... it's included with your first trackday.
However, we are big fans of the ARC program too... and actually run it during our trackday events. We run 2-day trackday events so lots of people do the ARC on day one and then the trackday on day two.
Keep in mind that our focus is on improving your street riding skills. We teach it on a racetrack because it is safer and easier.
Right now, we are only running the ARC program during our NH trackdays... but that may change around July of this year.
Regardless... glad you're looking to get some rider training!
Just to clarify... our intro program is FREE... it's included with your first trackday.
However, we are big fans of the ARC program too... and actually run it during our trackday events. We run 2-day trackday events so lots of people do the ARC on day one and then the trackday on day two.
Keep in mind that our focus is on improving your street riding skills. We teach it on a racetrack because it is safer and easier.
Right now, we are only running the ARC program during our NH trackdays... but that may change around July of this year.
Regardless... glad you're looking to get some rider training!
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04-02-2012 | 09:35 AM
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Hey all... Tony from Tonys Track Days here.
Just to clarify... our intro program is FREE... it's included with your first trackday.
However, we are big fans of the ARC program too... and actually run it during our trackday events. We run 2-day trackday events so lots of people do the ARC on day one and then the trackday on day two.
Keep in mind that our focus is on improving your street riding skills. We teach it on a racetrack because it is safer and easier.
Right now, we are only running the ARC program during our NH trackdays... but that may change around July of this year.
Regardless... glad you're looking to get some rider training!
Just to clarify... our intro program is FREE... it's included with your first trackday.
However, we are big fans of the ARC program too... and actually run it during our trackday events. We run 2-day trackday events so lots of people do the ARC on day one and then the trackday on day two.
Keep in mind that our focus is on improving your street riding skills. We teach it on a racetrack because it is safer and easier.
Right now, we are only running the ARC program during our NH trackdays... but that may change around July of this year.
Regardless... glad you're looking to get some rider training!
