Leather Vs. Textile
Yeah, Leather will be heavier than Textile. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. Maybe because Leather protects you better than Textile. But, it's your hide.
Your right, it is heavier, but it's not like your going to be out playing golf in it. Your going to be sitting down, w/ your hands out in front of you. If your worried about weight, look into getting a carbon kevlar helmet. Neck strain will wear you out quicker than an extra pound or two on your core.
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i am in no way saying that leather is not superior, just that which ever jacket he chooses provided he's not a lunitic should be adequit for daily ridding. i'm sure that you have some realy good pics of people all mangled up wearing these jackets, but how fast were they going were they being stupid. let me tell you if one is being stupid not even a leather will save his ***.. if you are ridding w/a jacket that restricts movement thats very dangerous, some times you need your reflexes to stay alive out there or you could bcome part of a guardrail, wall or telephone pole (just food for thought). no jacket will save you from any of those.
i am in no way saying that leather is not superior, just that which ever jacket he chooses provided he's not a lunitic should be adequit for daily ridding. i'm sure that you have some realy good pics of people all mangled up wearing these jackets, but how fast were they going were they being stupid. let me tell you if one is being stupid not even a leather will save his ***.. if you are ridding w/a jacket that restricts movement thats very dangerous, some times you need your reflexes to stay alive out there or you could bcome part of a guardrail, wall or telephone pole (just food for thought). no jacket will save you from any of those.
Well coredog can make obviously decide what's more important to him and I don't want to derail this thread .. just wanted him to have info. from both sides of the aisle. Your entitled to your opinion but imo your analogy doesn't hold water. The "daily riding" you keep refering to has no bearing on the fact that Leather offers more protection which there's no denying (as you yourself stated). Most accidents happen close to home and most happen at slow speeds (i.e. the car turning left in front of you crapola) .. I never said either jacket will "save" you from any and all injuries, what I and the rest have said is that it will offer "better" protection. Hitting the pavement at any speed I'm certain your skin will feel better with leather .. your reflexes, wether you were riding stupid or not, and the other analogies used has no bearing on what your skin feels like once it hits the pavement. That's like saying you don't really need to wear a good quality helmet as long as you ride safe because the good quality ones are heavier and more uncomfortable. It's your bones and skin, choose wisely. If cost is the primary factor holding you back look in the closeout sections as mentioned, there are some pretty good deals on leathers.
p.s. a good fitting leather jacket doesn't restrict your reflexes.
I know, but a million BMW touring guys can't be all wrong. There's great protection available in top shelf textile garments, Aerostich and Olympia to name a couple. Spidi and Dainese have loads of armored textile jackets, same with RS Taichi, Alpinestars, and every other top line manufacturer. It's a viable form of protection if you spend enough...so much so these days that I feel equally safe wearing either (though nothing beats Italian bovine---mmmm, yes...*taps vein...injects Spidi...rolls eyes*).
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I know, but a million BMW touring guys can't be all wrong.
I know, but a million BMW touring guys can't be all wrong.
spirit, your other points are well taken with one caveat; if you read the descriptions on those top quality brands (taichi, kishtani, dianese, vanson, etc..) on many of their leather selections they read "best protection" or something to that effect while they rarely claim such things on their textile selections, just something like "good protection" etc... don't forget, I said I have worn honda brand armored textile for years so I'm just saying if you can afford quality, go for it, otherwise "hope for the best" ... anything is better than nothing (mesh is debatable though).
p.s. This is why the posters above said "that's all I'm saying" because people will defend textiles like you insulted their mama if you say differently.
If they've improved textiles to the point they're comparable then I'm all for it but I'm skeptical yo.
oh and "burn rubber not your skin" ...
yeah that sucked but you know you almost giggled a little. i made myself laugh and that's what's most important. [8D]
yeah that sucked but you know you almost giggled a little. i made myself laugh and that's what's most important. [8D]
its simple, leather is the best, hands down, and it in 99.9% of cases will be usable after a crash. Everything else is a subtitute, yea it may work in a crash, n most likely be trashed. I prefer leather, I've been down w/o it b4, and no thanks. But everyone else is welcome to learn that lesson on thier own.
I have a two piece leather JR black gear. My next investment is a white Dainese Laguna Seca one piece for Summer. Black is really hot in the Summer. But, I will not ride without full leather. You can still be cool without sacrificing safety.


