Fish, I'm going to OT this thread for a minute. A Civic and and STi do not compare. Having been the owner of an STi (sans wing mind you), I can tell you that the car is nothing to scoff at for looks. It is purpose built. You can cram 4 people in. You can stop in 110ft versus the average 140-160 for passenger cars. Those looks, however brutish and unrefined, are safe/purposeful and the reinforced B-pillars can take a good roll and keep the passenger cabin intact. It is not a looker. It is not meant to be refined. It is meant to be a purpose built bitch whose transmission will handle power add ons and track days without complaint. No torque steer and a stability at speed that is hard to match. I tracked my car on multiple occasions (Road America at one point), and at one of the local open road track nights, a doctor driving a Z06 was giving me tips while telling me how he recommended an STi to one of his friends on a budget as a track car. I'd own one again in a heart beat. Plus, that horizontally opposed 4 cylinder sound is AWESOME. No Honda, Mits, or whatever inline 4 will ever compare to that sound

The GSXR is the same thing. It is an awesome performer that has an image skewed by misconception and assumptions of rider capabilities. I know a few track riders who are much better than me on GSXR's. You can't judge the whole by the actions of a few.

 

I dont like the looks of the gixxers as much as i do the hondas.BUt they do have stuff that honda should have been common by now on its bikes.

They have rear huggers,flash for the headlights,gear indicators,adjustable rear sets(at least on the 750's),ecu's are programable without buying extra parts(not 100% effective vs a power commander but still better than the honda).

Plus they are roughly (sticker to sticker 200.00 cheaper with all the extras above)..That we have to pay for if we want.

But to me a bike is a bike.I got the f4i because i got a great deal on it..I was looking at the gixxer ,r6 etc all at the same time.But something about the honda just caught me eye,even though it doesnt have all the other "bling " that the otther bikes have..Plus the *** end doesnt look like someone stepped on it and flattened it out

 

Honda's cost more and so are the parts (oem and aftermarket)


Also you can get giggy with a gixxer.

 

You're right woody, I did portray that, but I dont mean it. NEW riders I dont have a problem with, just the squids.

 

monkey see monkey do comes to mind.

 

I am not saying the STi is not a great performer. The flat six is a great motor, 4wd, big brakes. Subaru makes a good car. But my point was its looks. Really, compare a 73 camaro to an STi or a 67 vette or a 70 cuda or even a 71 mach1, how about 75 eldorados? These are good looking cars (and built like crap compared to the subaru.You areare looking more than skin deep with that Subaru, awesome on the inside, lousy on the outside. My point was that ugly is accepted nowadays for vehicles and that most teens and twenty somethings overlook the looks and even embrace ugly because the cars perform so well. The same goes for bikes, they are all just plastic and stickers, like toys. They are ungodly fast and smooth, but some people can't see the ugly because they are blinded by the performance.

This really is just an opinion from an older guy (44 years old) that is a fan of cars (I have an 2006 Acura TL, S2000 and a 1970 454 Vette). All my vehicles I think are very nice looking and I just have the opinion that sportbikes are great to ride, ugly to look at.

 

I think most HD's are ugly to look at and alot of sport bikes are good looking. I am in no way bashing the GSX-R or any one that can ride one the way it's ment to be riden. I was just saying how I think it's funny/sad that just about everyone that wants a bike is all about the GSX-R and not for the right reasons. I don't mind the looks of most gixxers besides the Busa-hate how that bike looks.

I was out on the bike last night and as we were leaving Sheetz there were two GSX-R's pulling in that were the same style and looked like twins. I have seen these guys before and it looks like they got a buddy deal or something LOL!

I like riding with all differant bikes. last night we had my F4 the 03 636 and the 88 Ninja 500 out. The 500 is owned by my Cuz and she got it for $700.00 with only 20K on the clock, custom paint, hot cams, uni filter and Vance and Hines 2-1 full exhaust.

I am in no way a hater on any bikesI just don't like dumb asses that don't know a GSX-R from a R6.

 

I think its a good that that most people looking to get into sportbike riding favor gsxr's. Atleast they're getting a good bike. just imagine if all new riders though buells were the ****. Theres nothing squidly or idiotic about not knowing stuff about sportbikes before you even own one. The only people that kinda bug me are the ones that do know the facts and still try to talk as much **** about other brands because they think whatever they ride is the best ever. When I'm looking for a new anything all I look at is the qualities that matter most to me. The only thing brand loyalty does for you is make you settle for less then the best just for a name.

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rJp4jjjaQ8Y .... proof.

 

Killer shorts man LOL! That guy is smart. Again some one else took this post the wrong way. I really like Honda, but I know there are other good brand and bikes out there. The one guys is right. being brand loyal will make you loose out sometimes.