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Old 09-03-2010, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Juliet
I even like my indicators on stalks, they make me feel safer because they are more visible to other road users rather than the flush mount aftermarket ones I have seen ... but, each to their own, I guess
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There are definately some brighter integrated taillights than any stock fender kit ive seen; mine is a clear alternatives for an f3. i think its super visible, an upgrade from stock blinkers and a stock tailight in brightness and looks, its a win win imo.
 

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Old 09-03-2010, 02:34 AM
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I will admit the OEM ones on my F3 are quite bulbous affairs with big bright orange lenses, they could have been more stylish

but I am really happy with the 600RR indicators, they are much smaller and slimmer with a nice grey/blue lens ...






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Old 09-03-2010, 08:02 AM
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Factory bikes look damn good (say that blue and white gixxer yesterday, and i must say that **** looks bad a$$) but my 954 is my 954. I dont want it to look like any of my counterparts on here or on the streets. So its a back and forth thing, i like the factory look but i like MINE. The fenders as just to large and ridiculous
 
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Old 09-03-2010, 09:04 AM
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i always put looks ahead of safety.......lol

i hate those bulky rear fenders, specially the f4i ones.
 
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i always put looks ahead of safety.......lol

i hate those bulky rear fenders, specially the f4i ones.




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Old 09-03-2010, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by zmds18




I think you misunderstood me, I said I put LOOKS ahead of safety. That guy looks like an idiot. lol heh, I always wear my helmet, long pants, and shoes! but the fenders, i'm sorry, are fugly.
 
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Old 09-03-2010, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Michaud85
i couldnt really think of a reason why it would be unlawful for bike manufacturers to integrate the taillight and have a license plate holder, but it is not against the law for the owner of the bike to do it..
It's illegal no matter who does it. The difference is, if the company didn't comply with DOT regs they wouldn't be allowed to sell the bike in the first place. If the owner does mods that make the bike no longer street legal, it's only a problem if they get caught. Or hit by a car because their aftermarket signal or brake lights aren't very visible

FWIW, here in Canada motorcycle signal lights must be at least 16 inches apart, and signal lights must have a minimum visible area from directly ahead and behind (around 3.5 square inches IIRC). So technically, all integrated tails and probably most flushmount signals are not street legal. I know you won't be allowed to take your motorcycle license road test here on a bike that has an integrated tail. I don't know of anyone who's gotten a ticket or failed a roadside inspection over flushmounts or an integrated tail, but recently a lot of custom cruiser style bikes have been getting ticketed for no reflectors. Probably because they annoyed the cops with their straight pipes.
 
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Old 09-04-2010, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Red_Eye
It's illegal no matter who does it. The difference is, if the company didn't comply with DOT regs they wouldn't be allowed to sell the bike in the first place.
my tail light says right on it DOT, which means it was obviously approved, not to mention the fact that it passes inspection, so i dont really see how it is illegal for the owner of the bike.
 
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Old 09-04-2010, 02:59 AM
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Well, here's a link to the MA motorcycle equipment regulations. And the relevant part:

f) Turn signals. Each motorcycle manufactured on or after January
1, 1973 shall be equipped with front and rear turn signal lamps. Front
turn signal lamps shall be amber mounted at or near the front of the
motorcycle on each side of the vertical center line at the same height
and shall have a minimum horizontal separation distance (measured from
center of lamps) of 16 inches. Minimum edge to edge separation
distance between turn signal lamp and head lamp shall be four inches.
Rear turn signals shall be red or amber mounted on each side of the
vertical center line at the same height and having a minimum
horizontal separation distance (measured from center of lamps) of nine
inches.
All turn signal lamps shall be mounted at a height from the
road surface of not less than 15 inches nor more than 83 inches. Turn
signal lamps shall flash at a rate of 60 to 120 flashes per minute.
The turn signal lamp activating control shall be positioned so as to
be operated without removing the hand from the handlebar and shall
properly indicate right and left when so switched. Turn signal lamps
shall be visible at a distance of 200 feet under normal daylight
conditions. Every motorcycle shall be equipped with a device to permit
the front and rear directional signals to flash simultaneously if
originally equipped by the manufacturer.
Clear Alternatives lights non-integrated tail lights are DOT legal. The integrated ones are legal when used only as brake lights. They clearly state that the integrated signals are not road legal. Passing inspection with an integrated tail doesn't make it legal, it just means the inspector wasn't doing his job
 
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Old 09-04-2010, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Red_Eye
Clear Alternatives lights non-integrated tail lights are DOT legal. The integrated ones are legal when used only as brake lights. They clearly state that the integrated signals are not road legal. Passing inspection with an integrated tail doesn't make it legal, it just means the inspector wasn't doing his job
Well ham and eggs man its that damn 9 inches of fugly separation that honda puts the fenders on for.. This threads question has officially been answered
 


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