...that's not to say that I was sure that 05rr was implying that either...

 

Well, I'm sure that Kid understood what I was saying directly towards him.

So, about those video's?

 

You're asking for people to see both sides of the story. First of all, have you presented both sides of the story here yourself. The answer is No. Second of all, this will be my last response to this thread, unless you man up and back up your statement. You keep saying you are using my statements concerning law enforcement to prove a point concerning the military. I directly challenge you to review every one of my post on the issue and find where I ever over all bashed law enforcement to use your own term. Not my words yours, Either F@cking quote me directly or get off of it. Your words not mine. You raise a good question about those in uniform, whether or not they should be held accountable. The answer is Yes they should actually be held to a higher standard on the whole subject. You went off on a rant on F3 about him voicing his opinion. He damn well earned his right to speak his mind on the subject he has first-hand knowledge. Do You ? Myself and countless hundreds of thousands of others have paid the price for you to have the ability to stand up and speak your mind and would never deny you the opportunity to do so. Personally, but he is speaking from experience and your experience concerning the whole issue is based on what CNN, Fox news,utube, bellying up to the bar with the boys, the neighbors BBQ discussing his family member who is deployed. I have no idea, but it is clear that you've never been there or ever interacted with those who have. You my friend would have a totally different perspective on the matter and IF this is a case of you with some egg on your face over some damn idiotic post in some other thread you have belittled the thousands who have lost their lives in that godforsaken hellhole with some video that may or may not be true. IF that is true, that would make you a very small minded, selfish individual unworthy of any genuine response. Now If the individuals in the videos are who they claim to be and what they appear to be in two of them. They should be prosecuted three are absolute fakes. Never seen two US servicemen wearing two different styles of uniforms in the same unit. The main speakers wore a Woodlawn fatigues and the other service man is wearing desert. Truly a fake. Not even a good one. After having it reviewed by someone other than myself, who did not get so worked up and was able to point several inconsistencies out to me

On The General Topic of ARE Videos Faked they answer to that question is Yes it is done constantly. You must remember that the lesson of swaying public opinion was learned with Vietnam. Jane Fonda done more to damage the US servicemen's reputation at home than anyone else . And you're dealing with a group of individuals that have billions of dollars at their disposal, who have sophisticated equipment that would rival the largest Hollywood studios. There have been hundreds of these videos faked and posted worldwide actually is not much different than what was done from the second world war on. But Vietnam was the biggest payoff for this type of propaganda


Now I Have a Question for You, and It Makes No Difference Whether or Not You Answer It Because I Will Not Respond Back. But If We Are Such a Brutal Force after We Discovered There Were No Large amount of Weapons of Mass Destruction found and We Had Removed Saddam Hussein, why Didn't We Walk Away. The Real Answer Is for Me, after SEEINGTHE Horrible Conditions That the General Population Had to Live with We As a Nation Couldn't turn Our Back and Just Walk Away and That Character and Genuine Concern for Humans Beings in General, Resonates through Most All of Us. I Seriously Suggest You Think Long and Hard about That before You Believe You Have Saw the Whole Picture
Last Word on the Subject until Somebody Mans up, Because It Is Not Worthy of Any Further Conversation

 

Wow...crazy thread, but that's what makes this country great...

Hardcorp...man...don't even sweat it. Some other folks on this board need your expertise about bikes orwhatever...try and focus on that and take the high ground. Be well.

Kid...wow...that's all I can say about your posts today.

I bleed blue....Air Force blue.

Cheers!

~Steph

 

this is crazy and has nothing to do with the thread but maybe one of the most worthwhile things to come out of it. Your name, your real name sounds so familiar have you ever been duty stationed at Okinawa

 

Nope...I was on mainland Japan @ Yokota, but that was back in 97 - 99. They tell me I have a twin somewhere in the world...I've always managed to be one step behind her. Hopefully, she won't commit any crimes or I'll be awhile explaining

Cheers!

~Steph

 

Who exactly is it that deleted it?

 

what thread about black people? muahhahahah...

you say it isn't racist because you do not understand racism and its many forms....

 

HARDCORP, StephyGee, F3Racer;

You are still missing my point. You'll not find anyone more patriotic than me. I can't believe I have to actually print this out - I've been saying the same thing all along.

I truly appreciate what our men and women do for us and our country. The task they have been given is difficult and will cost many their lives. The families of those lost are left only with rememberance and the comfort that what they have endured has been in in the name of equality for all who wish for it.

Equality.

You see, I am not using your comments to contradict you, even though I have pointed this out several times, you fail to either see it or comprehend it when I've said it. I use your comments to prove that with even the small population on this message board, there are still inequalities that you have fought for, that you have bled for. My only quesation to you is why don't you show the same passion when the nonsensical threads about law enforcement are posted?

I am in no way questioning your patriotism, your efforts or your honest intentions of leaving each man to his own opinion and the ability to vocalize it.

My entire point in everything here is that out of the small populace here, it is near impossible for them to approach a subject with objectivity. If we can't even get on the same page out of the 100 or so members here who post regularly, how can we expect the American people to? How about the world?

This thread was created as a frustrated response with the sort of nonsense that occurs here on a daily basis. Replace the word soldier with cop and you might just start to see my point. None of those cop threads share near the similar passion in the responses as this one has. Why is that? I challenge you, StephyGee and F3Racer to come up with some sort of answer to that question. Why is it okay for people to bash cops and not soldiers? I'm not saying you are okay with it or even ecouraging it - but I certainly haven't read near the enthusiasm in defending them as you have the soldiers. Why?

It is very frustrating to have to explain myself like this. I would certainly have hoped that those here who have posted (of the opinions that I respect), would have been able to read between the lines... especially when I said you need to read between the lines to get the point.

StephyGee, I sincerely hope that you haven't read all of the posts and are making that comment based off inconclusive reading. I truly respect you, I think you have done and do great things everyday. I've visted your site and looked at ALL of your pictures. I didn't do that because I don't see eye to eye with you. If you look hard enough, I think you'll see that I have no mal intentions or ill-feelings towards those who fight for our freedom and fight for the right for those who choose to remain ignorant.

I'm also not going to sit here and say, "I don't dislike black people." I don't need to say that. I love all people, from all countries. The thread I created about black people was just another attempt at provoking thought and pointing out the fact that people make retarded threads based off of generalizations here everyday and it is completely accepted. It's unfortunate, it truly is. The most unfortunate part of that thread is that it had 7 or 8 replies of people agreeing with me!!!

I was making a completely bigoted statement and people were agreeing with me! Can you guys not see the ignorance in that? I don't mean ignorant as an insult, I mean it as in, "lacking intelligence." I can't believe I actually had people thinking that I am a bigot. Come on people, haven't you seen enough of my posts to realize that for yourself, did I really need